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Why Do We Hate Absolute Standards So?



Posted: 07/19/2006
Why Do We Hate Absolute Standards So?

Standards were not a big topic in the Garden of Eden before the fall. What was there to debate? God said, “Thou shalt not eat of the tree of good and evil.” That was it. Just don’t eat of the fruit.

Today, all of us spend much of our time talking about, trying to understand, struggling with, and trying to obey certain standards. The question is not whether or not to have standards. The question is whose standards do claim and obey. Bible-believing Christians claim to follow the standards of God as revealed in the Bible. But, what is shocking to me is that many of those same brothers and sisters so often actually reject those very standards. Let me explain.

In 1983, I, along with the then president of American Vision Ministry, was a guest on the now defunct PTL Club television broadcast. My worst fear materialized that day. Jim Bakker was out of town and Tammy Faye was going to host the show. I had nothing against Tammy Faye personally. My fear was that she wouldn’t understand our message, and she didn’t. She actually admitted this during the break. PTL’s audience just wasn’t used to the type of hardcore message that we presented.

What was our message? We simply submitted the insane proposition that we (Christians) have to have a standard and that standard has to be Scripture. We argued that the Bible was applicable to every area of life including government, family, law, business, economics, art, ethics, etc. There was no neutrality. Many just can’t accept this argument. To me this is just Bible 101.

Who could disagree? Many people believe it or not. You wouldn’t think this would be controversial but it was and still is. Christians seem to have a great aversion to being confronted with or held to hardcore standards. They seem to prefer the mushy, ambiguous, amorphous type of standard that can be tailored to individual needs. Of course, I am generalizing, but what I am saying holds true generally across the denominational board.

For example as soon as one quotes an Old Testament law or standard the common response is, “We are not under law but under grace.”  What I find amusing is that when challenged rarely can anyone tell me what that means in practice. No matter how you define it, you have to reference back to the law.

Why can’t we murder people we don’t like under grace? The law. Why can’t we steal? The law. Adultery, nope, can’t do that either. Again, the law prevents us. And, it doesn’t matter whether you call it the law of Christ or the law of love or simply the law. There is still a standard that prohibits or encourages certain actions. We must conform to the law to please God.

Please don’t misunderstand my point here. The law does not save us. It never has. Keeping a standard does not save us. The standard is merely guideposts along the road of sanctification.[1] The law clearly reveals where we are in the sanctification process. I know that I am growing in Christ because I’ve cut back on stealing. I don’t murder either although I’ll confess I’m tempted at times. Let’s face it. We are all murderers in our hearts. We just choose not to commit the crime in order to please God and to avoid the nasty penalty.

This is exactly the point that C.S. Lewis makes in his classic book, Mere Christianity. All of us when in a dispute with someone else will appeal to some standard. As soon as we say something is wrong or claim that we have a better way, we have appealed to a standard. I think Christians will agree that the only reliable standard in life is Scripture so what’s the big problem?

Let me refer back to my PTL Club experience. We arrived in Charlotte, North Carolina, the day before the broadcast and were taken by limosine to a private part of the massive PTL complex. We were given private accommodations away from the general population. We also had an exclusive dining room where all the celebs, like us, ate. I’ll admit that this experience really appeals to your flesh, but that’s beside the point.

While we were unpacking our suitcases a pastor dropped by to introduce himself. I cannot remember his name but he was a regular on the program. We started talking about our message and he got down right “hot.” We had appealed to God’s law and his response was, “I hate God’s law!” and he quickly left. Although I don’t know for sure, I assume he we reacting to legalism and not to God’s law. I’d do the same. However, he violently reacted to a standard.

On another occasion I was speaking in a home to a group of maybe ten people. Again, I made the statement that we have to have a standard and that the standard must be God’s law or his principles if you prefer.

At some point during my presentation this one man got visibly angry and lashed out at me. He said, “I don’t like the fact that you see everything in black and white or right or wrong!” I responded by asking him, “What specific standard or issue are you referring to?” He got even madder and yelled, “Don’t try and put that on me!!!”

This is the clincher. When I pose specific situations and ask how we would address them without appealing to the law no one has given me a good biblical answer. It’s always ambiguous.

Think about this. Under the law of Christ, what is the punishment for embezzlement? How about libeling someone? Murder? What if you broke a neighbor’s lawnmower that you borrowed and then broke?

Can you see the problem? When we sever ourselves from God’s laws we drift. That’s what is wrong with America today. We are drifting to where I don’t know but away from our foundational principles. We are living just like they did in the time of Judges when Scripture tells us, “In those days there was no king in Israel; everyone did what was right in his own eyes.” This is pure humanism and too many Christians have opted to become humanist because they hate a standard.

If America is to recover from its downward track, America must repent. It must return to the God of our Fathers. It must stand on the only true standard mankind has: The Word of God, all of it.

In conclusion, I offer God’s formula for success, Joshua 1:8:

The Book of the Law shall not depart from your mouth, but you shall meditate on it day and night, that you may observe to do according to all that is written in it. For then you will make your way prosperous, and then you will have good success (NKJB).

If you think I’m being legalistic by quoting the Old Testament, then I offer Jesus’ words in John 14:15:

If you love me keep my commandments.

This is what I think. What about you?

Ralph C. Barker

www.ralphbarker.com

cruiseone@mindspring.com

 



 

 

 



[1] Romans 7:7

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Re: Why Do We Hate Absolute Standards So?
Posted On: 07/20/06 09:58:55 PM Age 41, FL
I agree with your article, and although I find myself falling short of the law, I do so believe in the black and white, laws of God. It's funny that whenever I have been so pro or against an issue, such as pro life or against homosexuality, the most quoted verse I get thrown back at me is Judge not, lest you be judged! People don't seem to know the rest of that verse, and when I tell them about it, then they go back to the fact that Jesus loves everyone- to that, I tell them, yes He certainly does, but then He says, sin no more! It's not that I'm jugemental of everyone, but I am quite outspoken among my more liberal friends and family, and they confuse my Love of Jesus for judgement of them. Thanks for the article- I'm enjoying this site- I'm new here.
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  1. Re: Re: Why Do We Hate Absolute Standards So?
    Posted On: 07/21/06 07:02:20 AMAge 58, GA
    Hi, Welcome Aboard. Sites like this offer great opportunity to air our views, share insights, and learn. Keep coming back. And, you are write about the "judging" defense. This is so shallow and over used. There are other places in Scripture that I have written on before that specifically tell us to judge "righteous: judgment. If we won't point out evil who will? Again, we seem to be terrified of any standard that can be identified. Blessings.
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Re: Why Do We Hate Absolute Standards So?
Posted On: 07/20/06 05:42:34 PM Age 52, VA
When I was in college the most admired and highly thought-of person was the one that was on a "quest" for spiritual truth. The one that was the most loathed was the person who claimed they had found the truth, especially if they found it in the Bible.
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Re: Why Do We Hate Absolute Standards So?
Posted On: 07/20/06 05:37:33 AM Age 56, AR
I may be misunderstanding what you're trying to say here. Are you saying that we should keep the law? John 14:15 gives two "new" commandments, "Love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. The second is like it, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself. On these two commandments hang ALL the law and the prophets." These are in the new covenant. Rom 3:20 "For with the deeds of the law, can no flesh will be justified in his sight; for by the law is the knowledge of sin." The law is our schoolmaster and our paraclete, but we cannot keep the law. We are taught by it. That's why Jesus came, he fulfilled the law. The bible does say that by the law is the knowledge of sin. It brings us to the point of the knowledge of our sin. His law is written on our hearts, natural man or not. Gal 3:10 "For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them. Gal 3:13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree." In the garden God said, "Thou shalt not." Under grace, Jesus took all the thou shalt nots and nailed them to a tree. His Holy Spirit is our paraclete now.
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  1. Re: Re: Why Do We Hate Absolute Standards So?
    Posted On: 07/20/06 02:08:23 PMAge 58, GA
    Thanks for your question. Yes, I think you misunderstand or I miscommunicate. As I mentioned no one is saved by the law..ever. You quoted the two great commandments. We still have the same result. Because you love God with all your heart and you love your neighbor as yourself you will not steal from your neighbor. You will not commit adultery with your neighbor. You will not kill you neighbor. How do we know this is the right thing to do? We are forced to the Old Testament Law. Again, we don't refrain from evil to be saved. We refrain from evil because we love God and selfishly, we don't want to pay the penalty for our varous sins. My main point is that Christians tend to have this great aversion to the law. There has to be a standard or else it is left up to everyone to decide what is right and wrong. Hope this makes more sense. If not, email me. Thanks again.
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