Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion…1st amendment US Constitution
I see signs of life. Southern Baptists leaders are once again calling for the development of an exit strategy from government schools.You should read Albert Mohler’s powerful commentary on the need to remove our kids from government schools.
Our recent trip to Danbury taught us one very clear truth.Americans have become embarrassingly ignorant regarding history, especially the real truths behind this nation’s clearly-Christian foundation.How is it we have come to believe such obvious miss-information?
One of the casualties of the American education system is the decimation of the student’s ability to think critically.Education today is nothing more than regurgitation of facts, with little emphasis on the application of those facts.Children are taught what to think, not how to think.Second level thinking is almost extinct.No consideration is given to opposing views and why they may have credibility.Real education would present both sides of an issue and open up the discussion to the pros and cons of each.However, that would not help test scores, and we all told that theseare the true measure of educational progress.
Which brings me to “the establishment clause” so readily quoted by our courts, and dutifully obeyed by tax-paying Christians.“That is a violation of the establishment clause,” pundits like to spew.But let’s think a minute.I’ve heard of violating a law, but how does one violate a clause?
Establishment-- recognized by law as the official church of a nation or state and
supported by civil authority.
Acknowledgement--the state or quality of being recognized or acknowledged;
"the partners were delighted with the recognition of their work";
There is a world of difference between acknowledgement and establishment. Why do we let anyone tell us that they are the same?When will Christian-Americans once again begin to think?
Let me give you some examples.Establishment: recognized by law.
The Constitution was established.
Governments are established.
Corporations are established.
Laws are established.
Organizations are established.
Religions are established.
What are some things that are acknowledged, or recognized?
Religious beliefs are acknowledged.
Race and ethnicity are acknowledged.
Culture and tradition are acknowledged.
Birthdays are acknowledged.
Holidays are acknowledged.
History is acknowledged.You can’t establish history.
Celebrating Christmas in government schools is acknowledgement, not establishment.Prayer at graduation is acknowledgment, not establishment.Posting the 10 Commandments is acknowledgment, not establishment.Teaching that marriage is between one man and one woman is acknowledgment, not establishment.Teaching that Jesus died on the cross is acknowledgment, not establishment.Why is celebrating Kwanza acknowledgment, but singing “Silent Night” an establishment?If February is Black History Month, when is Christian History Month?
Can’t you see what is going on?The secularists want to re-write history by eliminating all mention of God.George Orwell warned us, “He who controls the past, controls the future.And he, who controls the present, controls the past.”
During football season Ohio State-Michigan week is unbelievable in my home state of Ohio, almost a religious expression, really.The Michigan fans, though few, are vocal.Good-natured ribbing takes place before and after the game, and no one feels his rights were violated.
In Ohio, upwards of 90% identify themselves as Buckeye fans.That does not mean every person living in Ohio must root for OhioState.It does, however, let you know that if you are a Michigan fan, you are in the minority.You are welcome to wear the Maize and Blue jersey, but don’t expect the rest of Ohio to stop wearing the Scarlet and Gray.Ohio is Buckeye country.Acknowledged, but not yet established.Don’t like it?Move to Michigan.
According to recent polls 85% of Americans identify themselves as Christian.Just because 15% of the population doesn’t want to wear the Christian jersey doesn't mean the rest of us should have to take our jersey off.We want to acknowledge our Christian roots, not establish them.
We are losing this nation, because we are losing our heritage.We have forgotten who we are.
It is great that the Southern Baptist Convention is fighting for children.It is awesome that some judges are finally beginning to see the light.But once again, we are missing the boat.Why should Christians have to pull their kids out of the government schools?Christians pay for those schools.Refusing to go to the OSU-Michigan game is my prerogative, but should I have to buy the ticket if I don’t go to the game?Baptists have bought the government-school ticket.Why should they have to go start their own game?
The secular-Taliban wants to force us to wear their uniform.They want their no-religion team to be established, and they have 85%-majority-Christian-Americans bound-up, afraid of violating a clause.
If I can figure it out, why can’t our elected officials?Simple.They are men with large heads, and small chests.
Immigration laws are established, yet millions of Mexicans are ignoring them.They tell us that America is a nation of immigrants, (acknowledgment) so they want citizenship (establishment).Law breakers won’t follow laws, yet Christians follow clauses!
We are a Christian nation (acknowledgement), which believes in freedom of religion (establishment).We want our children taught our founding Truths (acknowledgement), with freedom of dissent (establishment).We are “endowed by our creator” with certain rights, (acknowledgement) and we demand the rights for all citizens, regardless of faith (establishment).God is above government (acknowledgement), and not below it (establishment).Some things are wrong (acknowledgment), and we make laws against them (establishment).Evolution and creationism are both theories (acknowledgment), but schools want to teach evolution only (establishment).The First Amendment grants freedom OF religion (acknowledgment), not freedom FROM religion (establishment).
Let’s put the 10 Commandments back up.Let’s restore Truth to our children.Let’s not be ashamed to acknowledge our roots.
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The "Coach" brings up that old hash about America being "Christian nation" as if it were axiomatic. What, please, is the definition of "Christian nation"? Certainly the overwhelming majority of its people profess some variant of Christianity or other--but that is simply a statistical truism. America's founders, contrary to that venerable theo-con fantasy, were overwhelmingly non-Christian and rightly suspicious of any established religion.
The "Coach" laments that in the public schools kids are taught "what to think, not how to think". I suspect he may be right in some degree, but I've seen the quality of "thought" flogged in the Christian academies he would like to replace the secular schools with. Talk about Orwellian. Click here to reply to this post
Re: Acknowledgment is not Establishment
Posted On: 05/04/06 09:44:49 AM
Age 42, WI
Wow, was I surprised by the 'feedback' to this great article! I found the very real way Coach put this topic into perspective refreshing and worthy of reading my MANY people, including those who are responsible for creating or maintaining the law! I am ashamed that those who have read this article totally missed his point! He was very practical by using his sports fan comparison because THAT is how we get it... if you can put something into terms that "we" can understand since "we" DON'T understand the basics of law and history.
Good job, Coach! Click here to reply to this post
Re: Acknowledgment is not Establishment
Posted On: 05/03/06 04:34:12 PM
Age 28, CA
You claim that you're losing the country. That's rich. Christians, as you point out, comprise 85% of the nation. Christians have control of both houses of Congress, the White House, and the US Supreme Court. If you manage to lose control of the country while your people are running it, you've got more problems than you know.
I'm an atheist, and I have no problem with anyone expressing whatever religious views they'd like to. I have no problem with students wearing t-shirts in school proclaiming their love of Jesus. Do whatever you'd like in that regard. My only request is that you not mandate the teaching of any one religious belief in the classroom. That's all. Why is that so hard for some people to understand?
No one is asking you to stifle your religious beliefs. We're simply asking that you not impose them on everyone else.
Thanks. :) Click here to reply to this post
Re: Re: Acknowledgment is not Establishment
Posted On: 05/10/06 10:26:00 AM
Age 27, MD
People *are* asking us to stifle our religious beliefs. They're not "Christmas" trees anymore, they're 'holiday' trees. Can't have red and green napkins at the party at school because it may remind someone it's the Christmas season. Can't pray publicly and acknowledge Jesus (if you're lucky enough to be *allowed* to pray at all), because someone may be offended. It's ok to make children learn about the Koran and pretend to be Muslim--even recite Muslim prayers. (I believe this was happening in CA.) But could you imagine what would happen if the school was teaching about the Bible and making the children recite the Lord's prayer???
I agree with you, though. There should be equality. The point is, there isn't. Another example: at Christmastime, there were window displays containing holy religious symbols of both Islam and Judaism. The nativity scene had also been included, but someone found that too offensive, and so it had to be replaced with a tree or santa (somehting along those lines.) Believe it or not, Christmas is about Jesus Christ, not santa clause!
So yes, let's have freedom *of* religion. But in doing so, that means that we don't pick and choose which ones to include. Click here to reply to this post
Re: Acknowledgment is not Establishment
Posted On: 05/03/06 12:03:46 PM
Age 47, MD
Coach Daubenmire's misunderstanding is bizarre. First off, it's very easy to violate a clause - a clause is just part of a law, as the Establishment Clause is part of the First Amendment.
Second, Daubenmire goes on and on about the difference between "acknowledgment" and "establishment", saying that the former is all right and the latter isn't. But the wording of the First Amendment is not "establishing" but "respecting an establishment of religion." I would say that "respecting" is a pretty good synonym for "acknowledging."
Finally, his football fans analogy is bogus. No one is arguing that Christians should not be able to acknowledge their faith on a personal basis. If you want to wear a "Christian jersey" you are quite free to do so. However, they are not permitted to use a public institution like a school to effectively require everyone else to wear a "Christian jersey" or even to show any favoritism toward a "Christian jersey" over any other kind of jersey. Click here to reply to this post
Re: Re: Acknowledgment is not Establishment
Posted On: 05/03/06 01:01:13 PM
Age 46, VA
Being intimately familiar with the constitutional issues that the Coach wrote about and engaging in court battles on the Establishment Clause issues full time, I can say that the Coach is right on with his differentiation between acknowledgment and establishment. Despite what pundits might say, there is a difference between acknowledgment, which the Establishment Clause permits, and establishment, which it prohibits. The Supreme Court has expressly said so, as did the Founding Fathers, including the author of the Establishment Clause. While some on the Supreme Court do not always follow the definitions of acknowledgment versus establishment as they should, it is a long-standing precedent. While I am not a football fan, I believe that the Coach's analogy is very appropriate. Christians are not trying to create theocracies, but we also are not going to stand by while God is erased from the minds of an entire generation. Thank you for an insightful and accurate commentary Coach. Click here to reply to this post
Re: Acknowledgment is not Establishment
Posted On: 05/02/06 09:56:11 AM
Age 19, MN
Have u even met with the 85% of america that claims to be christians??? I have met some of them, and let me tell you that 85% may claim christ, but i would downwards of maybe 20% of those are actually serious christians and not cultural christians. Click here to reply to this post
Re: Re: Acknowledgment is not Establishment
Posted On: 05/02/06 06:29:29 PM
Age 49, MN
Most realistic estimates put "real" Christians at about 2%. Far too many believe they are Christian because they were born in a "christian" home or they were baptized as babies. More believe they are christians because they said a little prayer and maybe even got baptized later. Their life hasn't changed, they still do all the same old things and really don't care about God and Jesus, but they think they are christians. Does that sound better? Click here to reply to this post
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