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Posted: 05/02/2006

Christians” Teaching First Woman Named Adam?

 

Here is more documentation from Christians for Biblical Equality, teaching that the first woman in the Garden was named “Adam” before sin. The speaker teaches here that Adam sinned when he gave the woman a different name, “Eve”, as if God intended for them to both be named “Adam” forever!

Wayne Grudem gives the correct explanation for Genesis 5:2 to combat this feminist androgynous misinterpretation. Wayne Grudem explains: God named the human race “Man” not “Woman.” Because the idea of naming is so important in the Old Testament it is significant to notice what name God chose for the human race as a whole. We read, “When Gid created man, He made them in the likeness of God. Male and female He created them, and He blessed them and named them Man when they were created.” (Genesis 5:1-2) The word that is translated Man is the Hebrew word, adam. But this is by no means a gender-neutral term in the eyes of the Hebrew reader, because in the four chapters prior to Genesis 5:2, “adam” has been used many times to speak of a male human being in distinction from a female human being…Does this make any difference? It does give a hint of male leadership, which God suggested in choosing this name –Evangelical Feminism and Biblical Truth (Grudem), p. 34, 35.

So, God is referring to “Mankind” in Genesis 5:1-2. However, here is documentation on what CBE is teaching (quoted verbatim from CBE tape: “0 Curses; Genesis 2 and 3”, by Dr. Joy Elasky Fleming; ACK612; http://www.cbeinternational.org/ ) on how God never intended for Adam and Eve to have different names; God never cursed the woman, and the CBE teacher calls the wording of the New American Standard Bible translation “dyslexic”, comparing the NASB translation of Genesis 3:16 to the “serpent”. In the attempt to expose the true teachings and spirit of this movement, please consider the following quotes verbatim from the CBE tape:

“How many of you know the name of the woman who lived in the Garden of Eden before the Fall?”

“What was her name? Her name was Adam.”

“Turn in your Bibles to Genesis 5:2At creation God called the name of the man and the woman Adam; if you said, Eve, she was given that name later by the man in Genesis 3:20, after he had sinned, so this is the fall(en) (or fall of) man who gave her that name. And as we’ll see during the course of our study, um, it wasn’t exactly a positive thing. God had not asked him to give her another name, but it was, I think it represents on his part a distancing of himself from the woman, by giving her another name.”

Next we have the CBE lecturer teaching there are no curses from God on the woman:

“I think we see the loving nature of God here in the midst of the most horrible of human tragedies here in the Garden of Eden, God takes the concern to explain to the woman and the man some things that they will want to know, um, and He doesn’t uh, He does not at this point return to Adam’s angry words, um, but He does pick up on the correctness of Eve’s words and builds on thoseUm, it says in the New Testament that the woman was deceived, and we saw that, God confirms that she was deceived…and so God curses because of the deliberate nature of the actions of the serpent and the man, but not on the woman, and um, that’s clear in the text.”

The following quotes the CBE speaker comparing the word order of the NASB to the ways of the serpent:

“Now, um, there’s, I am going to kind of explain to you a little further how more confusion has entered into the text…translators  have taken…the first seven Hebrew words, and they have kind of tossed them all up in the air and stirred them all around and changed the word order. Changing the word order is a serious problem. Um, I noted as I studied the text that that’s what the serpent did when he quoted God’s words in Genesis 3:1-5.”

(People ooh)

 “…that is the same grammatical construction…and so uh Satan’s use, the serpent’s use of those words, creates quite a stir literally, and that’s what we have in these mistranslations of Genesis 3:16…the mistranslations that many of us have, my NASB translates it, um, I like to call it dyslexic, a dyslexic translation.”

 Now, we hear the CBE speaker call Eve the “mother of all living” and Adam “the father of death”:

 “…and He (God) says it to the woman, and He says it as an alert: Be careful, you have a desire for your husband as before, but he’s not the same man you used to know in Eden, where everything is harmonious, because he will attempt to rule over you. And that is what he proceeds to do, as soon as God leaves, in 3:20…he gives her a different  name, and it’s his way of saying we’re not going to have the same name; we won’t be related, I’m separating myself from you. And um God had spoken of life and children to her; He had spoken of him (Adam) returning to the dust and death, and so he names her (Eve) the mother of all living, and he’s kind of the father of death. My husband thinks that he (Adam) was kind of upset at this point, and he was saying, ‘Well you’re the mother of all living, and I’m the father of all death.’”

(Audience laughs).

The CBE lecturer then teaches that it was a sin on Adam’s part to give Eve a different name and tells us that God did not curse either the man or the woman, but the “sinful disorder” was all Adam’s fault with no blame given to Eve:

“It’s a hostile act to kind of act on a name that God had already given and to change thatBy the way God lovingly curses neither the man nor the woman, whom He had created and blessed at creation, so that was God’s design, but the sinful disorder that devolved here was the man presuming to oust God from the picture and to rule over the woman, and that’s what we see here, and I would just like to read a quote in conclusion. Phyllis Trible described it this way: Distinctions within one flesh became oppositions. Division followed yielding opposite sexes. To defend himself, the man turned against the woman and betrayed her to God (in 3:12). Yet, according to God, she still yearns for the original unity of male and female. For your man is your desire. Alas, however, union is no more; one flesh is split. The man will not reciprocate the woman’s desire; instead, he will rule over her. Thus, she lives in unresolved tension, where once there was mutuality, now there is a hierarchy of division. The man dominates the woman to pervert sexuality; her subordination is neither a divine decree nor the female destiny. Both their positions result from shared disobedience. God describes this consequence but does not prescribe it as punishment.”

"It says it well, doesn’t it? Yeah."

(People clap)

“This ends on a sad note, but I would like to end on a positive note and say that Christ redeemed us from sin, and we’re not destined to have to follow sinful patterns, but we can live our lives in victory, and God has given us that power in Jesus Christ, praise God!”

Someone says, “Amen” and audience claps and asks for copies of notes.

The Evangelical Feminists may find a kindred spirit in Dan Brown’s Gnostic potboiler, The Da Vinci Code, on pages 125, 320-321, 341-342, and 444. Sadly, these pages are reminiscent of the teachings of Christians for Biblical Equality, including CBE’s Sacred Feminine teaching of calling God “mother”. Consider this spiritual parallel between CBE and the pagan popularity of the spirit of the goddess and the rise of androgyny in our culture through the following quotes:

 “The church had a deceitful and violent history… The days of the goddess were over…every faith in the world is based on fabrication….The pendulum is swinging. We are starting to sense the dangers of our history…and of our destructive paths. We are beginning to sense the need to restore the sacred feminine.” –The Da Vinci Code, pp. 124-125, 341, 444

“Compared to ancient Roman feminism, the present expression is an avalanche that sweeps all before it.  Feminism is the most powerful movement of change in Western society during this recent revolutionary period. Feminism is not all bad. It brought some excellent changes to our society—an added respect for women and their giftedness, a clear identification of male chauvinism, a new sensitivity to various forms of abuse, and a need to define very carefully what we mean by patriarchy. However, movements, like swords, always have two edges…sexual perversion of androgyny is not an incidental footnote of pagan religious history, of mere passing interest, but represents one of its fundamental ideological commitments.” –Peter Jones, Capturing the Pagan Mind, p. 46,157; (Broadman and Holman Pub.)

 

They promise to give us a new message at CBE, and they are holding true to their word to continue to surprise us with teachings that are “new”, obviously inspired from a spirit in opposition to the Holy Spirit.

“My sheep hear my voice” John 10: 27 “And a stranger they simply will not follow…” John 10:5

Dwayna Litz

 

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Re: Christians Teaching First Woman Named Adam?
Posted On: 08/16/06 03:20:00 PM Age 53, PA
Dwayna is continuing to peg Christians who disagree with her as pagans. I would suggest that she look at scripture by reading through the words of Genesis from using a good lexicon. She will see that God called both the man and the woman as "man" and the Hebrew word is "Adam". If Dwayna was educated by studying the text in the original languages, as she is debating a CBE speaker's facts, she would see that the speaker has said the facts from Genesis correctly. The term "woman" that Adam gives her after her creation shows her likeness to him. The name "Eve" given her by Adam was given after sin happened and he started his rule over her. If Dwayna is going to use this forum for disagreeing with Christians from CBE, I would suggest that she checks her facts carefully before she labels a fellow Christian as having a spirit opposite to the Holy Spirit. A careful reading of the Hebrew would correct Dwayna's confusion.
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Re: Christians Teaching First Woman Named Adam?
Posted On: 06/08/06 11:51:48 AM Age 53, MO
I read Mr. Grudem's piece in full, and came away with a completely different understanding as Litz. Makes me wonder if we were actually reading the same thing.
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Re: Christians Teaching First Woman Named Adam?
Posted On: 05/22/06 03:42:49 PM Age 23, MN
I was surprised to find that Christians for Biblical Equality (CBE) is being called a pagan movement within the church. While the debates between complementarian and egalitarian positions have occasionally flared outside of gracious debate, accusations here appear uninformed and misleading. Certainly, CBE welcomes questions from anyone who wishes to test our dedication to the Word of God and to orthodox theology. But we hoped that these concerns would be brought to CBE first, as the Bible instructs (Matt 18:15-17), rather than displayed on the Web. We are concerned for people who are not familiar with the debate or with CBE scholars otherwise, and who may be misled by the assumptions about CBE. While an undergraduate education is certainly not a prerequisite for critiquing biblical truth, some claims are not well-researched and in some cases, are just badly informed. Those familiar with CBE will identify the error in accusations like the following: 1. Paralleling CBE with the once-Baptist author Sue Monk Kidd and her connections to Gnostic traditions, and claiming CBE could find a kindred spirit in the Da Vinci Code. Both are undocumented and untrue. First, CBE affirms that the Da Vinci Code is unbiblical and does not portray women as Jesus does (see CBEs blog post regarding this). Second, the word gnosticism is used without clear definition. From the encyclopedia: Gnosticism is a historical term for various mystical initiatory religions, sects and knowledge schools which were most active in the first few centuries of the Christian/Common Era . . . These systems typically recommend the pursuit of mysticism or special knowledge (gnosis) as the central goal of life. CBE never addresses secret knowledge, but rather promotes extensive, cohesive, and prayerful study of the Bible and Christian history to uncover the consistent teaching of biblical equality found in the Bible. We conduct all aspects of our ministry in the light (John 3:19-21) so we may be tested. CBE encourages questions if anyone fears they are being led into unorthodox, cultish practices. We promote nothing of the sort and rather, want to pursue the truth of Gods vision for the Church (1 Cor 12, 13). 2. Claiming CBE advocates worship of the Divine Feminine and denies Jesus maleness. President Mimi Haddads article highlights both masculine and feminine imagery for God found in the Bible, but Haddad never compels her readers to worship the Divine Feminine! Rather, Haddad insists God is Spirit, as Scripture teaches (John 4:24). To suggest that God is a woman, or a man, would reduce God to a human being. Haddad takes no issue with Jesus as a male, but Jesus masculinity in no way suggests that God is male. 3. Proposing that CBE and the egalitarian movement lead to pagan feminism. This is certainly not biblical and defames the very God we worship! CBEs bookservice, Equality Depot, carries multiple books decrying such practices, including Aida Besancon Spencers The Goddess Revival and Catherine Edwards Sanders Wiccas Charm. Both critique paganism from a biblical perspective, while explaining why heretical movements gain popularity among feminists who sense Christian churches undervalue the contributions of women. As I walk with Christ, I recognize Satan working through division. As Jesus said, a house divided cannot stand, no less a kingdom (Mark 3:24-25). Satan would like nothing more than to set the Body of Christ against itself, which will ultimately destroy the Kingdom. If any part of the Body is not functioning to its fullest capacity, then we are preventing the Body from growing to the full stature of Christ (Eph 4:11-16). CBE calls for every person to be reconciled to God as a new creation; this is a biblical, godly, work (2 Cor 5:17-20). Jesus says you can tell a tree by its fruits, and can judge deceivers by the bad fruits they produce (Matt 7:15-20). We are grateful for the many that have been touched, healed, and freed by the gospel through CBEglory to God. If this fruit is bad, then I dont know what is good. We pray the work of CBE continues to be done with humble spirits before God, doing justice and loving mercy (Micah 6:8). -Heather CBE Blog Administrator
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Re: Christians Teaching First Woman Named Adam?
Posted On: 05/03/06 05:17:31 PM Age 18, IN
This was not realy an article. It was a collection of quotes which the author needed to combine. The author needs to state what they are trying to say instead of relying on readers to figure out what they sre trying to convey through quotes. Obviously what the author has shown is disturbing, but I don't understand the connection from Eve being named Adam to the DaVinci Code. Exactly what point is the author trying to make?
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Re: Christians Teaching First Woman Named Adam?
Posted On: 05/03/06 04:18:24 PM Age 42, KS
I'd have to say that there is some serious tampering with the translation of the bible. This is warned against in Revelations. I am also saddened by the fact that there are people gullible enough to believe false teachings. Hopefully everyone follows Paul's advice and tests the word for themselves.
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Re: ?Christians? Teaching First Woman Named Adam?
Posted On: 05/03/06 10:45:59 AM Age 21, OH
I'd suggest not just quoting false teaching and leaving it at that. Some people may be tempted to believe her interpretations, or at least not know how to respond.
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