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The Magog Identity



Posted: 08/16/2008

The Magog Identity

By Chuck Missler

Russia's invasion of Georgia has caused a uproar in the international community and further strained Russia's diplomatic relationship with the West. These events could help pave the way for the famed battle prophesied in Ezekiel 38 and 39. It is during this battle, that God will directly intercede to protect Israel from Magog and its allies:

"And the word of the LORD came unto me, saying, Son of man, set thy face against Gog, the land of Magog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal, and prophesy against him…And I will turn thee back, and put hooks into thy jaws, and I will bring thee forth, and all thine army, horses and horse-men, all of them clothed with all sorts of armour, even a great company with bucklers and shields, all of them handling swords…(Ezekiel 38:1-4)."

So begins this classic passage in which Gog and Magog, with their allies, are drawn into an invasion of Israel only to have the God of Israel use the occasion to show Himself strong by intervening on behalf of His people and destroying the invading forces. To understand this passage, it is essential to first determine who the players are. Despite the many controversies, these participants are surprisingly well identified. Just who are the people represented here by these ancient tribal names?

Why Such Weird Names?

Have you ever wondered why the Biblical prophets always seem to refer to various peoples by such strange names? It's actually our fault! We keep changing the names of things. There once was a city known as Petrograd. For many years it was known as St. Petersburg. Then it was changed to Leningrad. Now it's St. Petersburg again. What will it be named a few years from now? (My friends in Russia say that in Russia, even the past is uncertain!) The capital of the old world, Byzantium, was renamed Constantinople. Now that city is known as Istanbul. This occurs even in our own country. How many of you remember when "Cape Canaveral" was renamed "Cape Kennedy"? Ten years later it became "Cape Canaveral" again.

But we do not change the names of our ancestors! So, if you were the prophet Isaiah and were called upon to speak of the Persians over a century before they emerged as an empire, how could you refer to them? You would speak of them as the descendants of Elam, the forebears of the Persians.

All humans are descended, not only from Adam, but from Noah. Noah and his three sons repopulated the entire Earth after the flood. Thus, we are all descendants of Noah's three sons: Ham, Shem, and Japheth. The genealogical records of Noah and his three sons are listed in Genesis 10, and the 70 original tribal groups described there are often called the "Table of Nations" by Biblical scholars.

Magog was one of the sons of Japheth and his descendants are often referred to by their Greek name, the Scythians. Early scholars and historians - including Josephus Flavius and the "Father of History" Herodotus - have identified Magog with the people group that has become the modern nation of Russia. To learn more about The Magog Invasion, click on the links below.

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The link?
Posted On: 08/19/08 09:59:05 AM Age 46, ENGLAND
The was no link below to click on!
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Magog Identity
Posted On: 08/17/08 08:55:57 PM Age 41, NY
The following is taken from the work of Carl Ludwigson: Ezekiel's Gog / Antichrist is the enemy from the north. In the Old Testament, the king of the north has reference to the areas of Syria, Turkey, and Iraq [see Ed's map below; not part of original article]. The word north is used of Syria or the Old Seleucid Empire six times, of Babylon sixteen times, of Assyria one time, and of Iran one time. These are the lands once occupied by Magog, Gomer, Togarmah, Meshech and Tubal. King of the North geographical references in Scripture Meshech, Tubal, Togarmah, Dedan and Syria traded with Tyre six centuries before Christ [Ezek.27:13-16]. These lands clearly define the north. The fact that some scholars equate the names of ancient Middle East cities with modern English cognates is appalling. Meshech is NOT Moscow; Moscow just had its 850th birthday. Some have interpreted the Hebrew word 'rosh' in Ezekiel 38:3, which is translated 'chief', to be a reference to Russia. In the Massoretic text the words 'chief prince' carry the accents Tiphha and Zaqeph-gadol. [See Hebrew text on which the following statements are based on this web page.] The Tiphha appears under the resh of the Hebrew word 'rosh'; the Zaqeph-gadol appears on top of the sin of the Hebrew word 'nish'. The Tiphha to the right, underneath the initial consonant of the word 'rosh', or chief, is prepositive and does not mark the tone syllable. See Kautsch and Cowley's *Grammar*, page 61 item 9. The word 'nish' or prince has the accent Zaqeph-gadol which is disjunctive and indicates a pause. See Kautsch and Cowley's *Grammar*, page 60 item 4b. So Ezekiel 38:3 should be read as follows: "Behold, I am against thee, O Gog, the prince, {pause} chief of Meshech and Tubal:" Rosh is not Russia. The Hebrew word 'rosh' is translated head or chief 423 times in the Old Testament. Again, it is absolutely appalling how some scholars can equate the English cognate 'rosh' with Russia. Rosh is not Russia. Thank you Carl Ludwigson for that lesson. All atlases of the Bible printed before the 1940's [and the Russian scare] show the land of Magog to be in the Northern part of modern day Iraq, just north of Bagdadd. (Ed's map not part of the original article) Meshech and Tubal are in the area that today is Turkey and portions of northern Syria as well as northern Iraq. It is clear that the leader, Gog / Antichrist, will be from Iraq and that he will become the chief prince of that portion of Turkey and the northern part of Syria along with Iraq, which is a good part of the Old Hashemite Kingdom [Hussein of Jordan]. The Hashemite Kingdom is the Kingdom of Muhammad, the prophet of Allah, the other side of the regions spiritual coin. The direct descendent of Muhammad, and the present ruling king of a pseudo Hashemite Kingdom, has vowed to regain his ancestral land, since it was stolen from him in a military junta in 1958. . . . Gog, from Magog will become Gog when the false deliverer has risen to his power position, and as Daniel puts it, he becomes the eighth ruler out of the seventh kingdom in the succession of kingdoms who had authority over the Jews, and flowed through Babylon. The kingdoms were; Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Medo-Persia, Grecia, Rome, Hashemite [the seventh, modern day kingdom] and out of it, the eighth ruler ascends the throne, but as the possessor of the little horn, seventh king, who is the Hashemite King. . . . I think we have demonstrated that Magog is not Russia, and that since it is Magog, it is right in the center of today's stage, and will become the seventh kingdom in the succession of kingdoms flowing through Babylon, and when the evil spirit possesses the King of that seventh kingdom, Antichrist will be on the scene, and the second half of the Great Tribulation, the Great, will be underway
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  1. SoPo
    Posted On: 08/18/08 01:34:52 PMAge 54, OR
    Thank you, writing about this subject is not always easy because so much on Magog in my opinion is more conjecture than Biblical fact. It's good to here when brothers study beyond there Traditions and convey Biblical Traditions.
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No Links
Posted On: 08/17/08 07:29:16 PM Age 40, CO
Very Interesting article. I would like to learn more, but there are no links.
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Magog
Posted On: 08/17/08 10:29:36 AM Age 61, MO
To insist on making the Ezekiel 38-39 prophecy literal to today's current events, is to be deceptive. The prophecy saw literal fulfillment in Old Testament times when Atiochus and Maccabees invaded Israel, and were shut down by God. The New Testament church age in which we now live, this prophecy can be viewed as a metaphor: a spiritual attack of the powers of darkness against the saints of Christ. This spiritual battle rages in each person in all the nations. There is no one nation more pure than another. George Cancilla
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Could Magog be the present Russia?
Posted On: 08/16/08 01:38:13 PM Age 51, NETHERLANDS
Unlikely! Mostly Ezechiel 38 en 39 are mentioned as to pinpoint Russia as Magog. At the same time Rev 20:7-8 are ignored. Read Rev 20:7-8: "7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of the prison. 8. And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, GOG AND MAGOG, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea." Also read Ez 38:8 "After many days [a thousand year] thou [Gog] shalt be visited: in the latter days [after the millenium] thou shalt come into the land [Gods people on earth in/after the millenium] that is brought back from the sword [had peace after the struggle against Satan and Antichrist in the Great Tribulation], and is gathered out of many people, against the mountains of Israel, which have been always waste: but it is brought forth out of the nations, and they shall dwell all of them. 9 Thou shalt ascend and come like a storm, thou shalt be like a cloud to cover the land, thou [Gog = satan], and all thy bands [demons], and many people with thee. [probably those born in the millenium and getting deceived].(KJV with my comments in bracklets). Please explain why Magog in Revelation is almost never mentioned. God bless, Joop
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  1. Exekial 38 war and the great rebellion at end of mill are different
    Posted On: 08/28/08 03:34:01 PMAge 52, VA
    Just very quickly - look at Ezk 39:9. This describes the cleanup after the invasion is stopped as taking 7 years. I can't see that happening in the eternal state, can you? 39:17 speaks of the second great invasion by the Antichrist, the Battle of Armageddon. So, as you can see, there are three battles all told.
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