Rick Warren’s Church is Teaching The Same Thing As Oprah?
Posted: 04/08/2008
Rick Warren’s Church is Teaching The Same Thing As Oprah?
By Brannon s. Howse
Best Selling Christian/New Age Author Leonard Sweet will be speaking for Rick Warren’s church this April of 2008.For those of you who did not think Rick Warren was part of the EmergentChurch movement, time to think again. Leonard Sweet is as EmergentChurch, New Age, New Spirituality as you can get.
In his book, Quantum Spirituality, Sweet states:
The power of small groups is in their ability to develop the discipline to get people "in-phase" with the Christ consciousness and connected with one another.
Here are some more quotes from Leonard Sweets Book Quantum Spirituality:
“Austrian/American physicist Wolfgang Pauli perceived, are the traceable connections that exist between ourselves and others or objects, and the underlying holism of the uni-verse. Transcendent state of consciousness” (Quantum Spirituality p.234)
“New Light embodiment means to be “in connection” and “in-formation” with other Christians…The church is fundamentally one being, one person, a communion whose cells are connected to one another within the information network called the Christ consciousness” (Quantum Spirituality, p. 122).
“Postmodern missions must have a geomantic imagination and geomantic design. What I am calling a geomantic style of evangelization will ensure harmonious habitation patterns as the gospel interconnects and interacts with all life-and landforms. (Quantum Spirituality, p.168)
Read some quotes from Oprah and her New Age Movement friends and compare them to what Leonard Sweet is saying. No difference. Yet, Rick Warren has put his stamp of approval on Leonard’s worldview by having him as a keynote speaker at his church.
People can not say we did not warn them about Rick and his friends several years ago.
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".....that doesn't mean He put His stamp of approval on anything that doesn't line up with scripture..."
Now, that to me sounds exactly like Roman Catholicism, doesn't it??? All this talk about "Purposed Driven Churches or LIfe" are nothing but new age philosophies which are the works of Satan. Case close. Click here to reply to this post
New Age Philosophies.
Posted On: 05/11/08 01:52:18 AM
Age 49, AL
".....that doesn't mean He put His stamp of approval on anything that doesn't line up with scripture..."
Now, that to me sounds exactly like Roman Catholicism, doesn't it??? All this talk about "Purposed Driven Churches or LIfe" are nothing but new age philosophies which are the works of Satan. Case close. Click here to reply to this post
What will it take
Posted On: 04/11/08 09:35:47 AM
Age 62, VA
So many just sit in their pews and listen to the preacher and go home and never search out what is taught, never learn what is the truth! Likewise they take what TV preachers and Rick Warrens and never check out what they preach to see if it lines up with scripture or if it is correct!
the Nations moral are in dire straights because of the laziness of the people. You can not blame the pupit or the preachers or teachers, you can only blame your own lazy self!
We are taught from childhood not to accept anything at face value but we have left those teachings in the dust because it takes effort to search out and find the truth!
If we all were hungry to know the truth, there would be no reason for articles like this to be written, there would be no Rick Warrens or Oprahs making millions off of idot people!
The Word says 'Seek ye first the Kingdom of God'!!
Guess yall need to get busy! Click here to reply to this post
Purpose Driven Agenda
Posted On: 04/10/08 08:43:45 PM
Age 55, SD
I used to belong to a great southern baptist church. Our pastor (at the time) introduced us to The Purpose Driven Life and the whole church was made to go through the program (reading the book, Bible study groups, etc.) When I first started reading the book, I was really impressed by it, although I have never been a fan of the different Bible translations. I'm a die hard KJV. However, by the time I got to the middle of the book, I was feeling rather uncomfortable with it. There was something that "just wasn't right" but I could never put my finger on exactly what it was. Now, as I hear and read all the information on Rick Warren and his "agenda", it makes me sick to think that our pastor was so deceived and thereby led his flock down the same path of deception. I praise and thank God for this website as well as a couple of others that are devoted to telling the real truth on the emergent church, contemplative prayer, post-modernism, and the entire new age movement. Click here to reply to this post
more info
Posted On: 04/10/08 09:46:38 AM
Age 68, MI
i would like some tangible info on this rick warren to share with others i do not believe that i needed him to tell me or the true chuech what our purpose is jude 3 is one example that is not being done enough exposing catholicism is another that is desperately needed. too many feel good joel osteens and not enough people truly ready to be hated for the truth and for his name sakedobson colson and other hi profile compromisers Click here to reply to this post
Prayer
Posted On: 04/09/08 09:56:12 AM
Age 45, VA
As a mom of 2 teenagers and one young adult my heart breaks as I see the amount of deception aimed at them today. It angers me that so many in powerful positions have themselves been decieved and in turn, are decieving our children, so subtly.
The prayer that God has put upon my heart continually over the past year has been that none of my children or loved ones will exchange the truth of God's word for a lie!
It seems deception, compromise, the whole seeker friendly movement has watered down the Truth, to the detriment of those seeking it. However, I myself do not want to be decieved in thinking that God is not bigger than Satan's deception. Those truly seeking will find Him. But I believe as a mom it is my responsibility to pray and believe God for my children.. praying spiritual warfare on their behalf and not underestimating the power of the battle that really exists, and the power of prayer to defeat it! I have seen it with my 21 yr old son over the past year. He had his first personal experience with a God who loves him personally, and I watched as Satan tried to decieve him into twisted teachings that were not Biblically sound, but a very close "sounding" gospel that was sucking him in quickly. Our family and friends went to battle for him in prayer, and I have never seen God move so quickly to bring about freedom in his life. We need to go back to serious prayer..the warfare for souls is ever increasing! Click here to reply to this post
Quantum Purpose
Posted On: 04/09/08 08:46:57 AM
Age 42, LA
At first I loved the idea of God creating me for a purpose. I still do. But only as far as God's purpose which is simply to preach the Gospel till I die in word and deed. The language used by Leonard Sweet is New Agism and it is a subtle shift to both draw the church into the language of New Age and to shift the view of the church as one organism united by it's mere existence as well as being one with everything else that exists. Rather we are many memebers of one body or army. If you have ever enjoyed the fellowship on the Pastors Forum at the Saddleback website you can see the cult mentality they have. Any challenge of their thought or mentality is grounds for a Pirhana like attack. I was kicked out twice for posting and defending the statement, "Jesus is Lord!" Well, I don't blame Rick Warren for the message board mishaps, however the moderators on there are disciples of the movement. Click here to reply to this post
Really?
Posted On: 04/09/08 01:20:50 AM
Age 21, PA
Aren't we supposed to be connected as believers, bearing each others burdens? Wasn't the early church's radical appeal the way they fearlessly loved and cared for everyone as one body? Aren't we supposed to preserve unity? Didn't Paul not only share the Gospel with people but his life as well?
Just trying to understand the perspective presented is all... Click here to reply to this post
WHO ARE THE FOLLOWERS OF JESUS
Posted On: 04/11/08 12:47:28 PM
Age 64, OH
Are we to be connected to those who believe in everything and anything. Are we to be connected to those who believe in and follow Satan. Well of course not. The question is what is a believer in Jesus Christ. That is a person who has given their life to Jesus Christ and made Him their King and they have become His servant. They trust in Jesus and no one else or nothing else to save them. For Paul tells us that if we trust in Jesus AND SOMETHING ELSE to save us, then Jesus can not save us. What Warren is teaching is opposed to the gospel of Jesus Christ. Light can not have fellowship with darkness. We need to keep these people in our prayers and be open to showing them kindness. But we can not show approval of their false message by having anything to do with their organization. Lou Click here to reply to this post
True Churches
Posted On: 04/08/08 11:27:33 PM
Age 41, CANADA
I feel your grief. I have found an excellent church...online, that streams, every Saturday and Sunday, their sermons live, including their worship service.
Search for Compass Bible Church in Aliso Viejo, California and Pastor Mike Fabarez or www.compassbible dot org . He speaks the Gospel Truth and does it through Expository Teaching so as not to overlook the tough stuff. You will be blessed by God's work through this pastor's ministry. Click here to reply to this post
