Robert Schuller – the Humpty Dumpty of Evangelicalism
Posted: 02/26/2008
Volume 14, Issue 3: March2008
Robert Schuller – the Humpty Dumpty of Evangelicalism
by Gary E. Gilley
You might recall that, when Alice was conversing with Humpty Dumpty, she rebuked him for misusing words.Humpty replied, “When I use a word, it means just what I choose it to mean – neither more nor less.”Alice protested, asking if he could really make words mean different things, to which Humpty answered, “The question is, which is to be the master – that is all.”
This approach to words and their meanings has been common among theological liberals and cultists for years.Visit the worship service of any liberal church and most likely you will hear much that seems to define and frame orthodox biblical truth.Listen more carefully and you will soon realize that the words and phrases have been infused with new meaning.They have, if I could make up my own word, been humptified.
There is nothing novel or unusual about this in liberal or cultic circles, but we expect more of those who claim to be evangelicals such as Robert Schuller.Schuller’s pedigree is impressive.He is founder and long-time pastor of the Crystal Cathedral in southern California, author of many books, television personality, one of the pioneers if not the father of the seeker-sensitive movement, and much more.As I write these words Schuller is hosting, along with emergent leader Erwin McManus, the ReThink Conference at the Crystal Cathedral.Speaking at the conference are such noted evangelicals as Gary Smalley, Chuck Colson, Kay Warren, John Ortberg, Nancy Ortberg, Lee Strobel and George Barna.Many of the other speakers would make no claim to being evangelical Christians: Larry King, George H. W. Bush, Rupert Murdoch, Ben Stein, Lou Holtz and Kathy Ireland.[1]
The stated goal, in part, behind Rethink is to “get ahead of the curve… [and] leaveequipped to better lead those you influence through today's and tomorrow'schallenges.”[2]The conference was created to inform Christian leaders that a paradigm shift is now underway. As a result of this shift Christianity must be re-thought and re-invented if it is to survive.Part of this re-invention is to repair the breach that exists between Christianity and other world religions, as well as the best in secular thought.In his book My Journey Schuller writes.
I met once with the Grand Mufti [a Muslim], truly one of the great Christ-honoring leaders of faith.He agreed to come and be my guest … during our holy time of worship in our holy gathering place – the Crystal Cathedral… I’m dreaming a bold impossible dream; that positive-thinking believers in God will rise above the illusions that our sectarian religions have imposed on the world, and that leaders of the major faiths will rise above doctrinal idiosyncrasies, choosing not to focus on disagreements, but rather to transcend divisive dogmas to work together to bring peace and prosperity and hope to the world[3] (emphasis mine).
In order to accomplish such an agenda it would require some sort of mutually agreed upon intellectual framework and a unifying experience.In a fallen world such unity will never be based upon theological truths as found in Scripture.After all, Jesus said “The gate is small and the way is narrow that leads to life, and there are few who find it” (Matt 7:14).And Paul was clear that God has made foolish the wisdom of this world and that the message of the cross is foolish and offensive to the unbeliever (1 Cor 1:20, 23). If God’s communication to mankind divides rather than unifies, as Jesus said it would, then what is an “evangelical” leader to do who sees as his mission to unify the Christian faith with other religions and ideologies?He must create a message that is both acceptable to the Christian community and non-Christian community.Schuller does this by taking commonly understood biblical and theological terms and changing their meaning.
Sin and Hell
For example, concerning sin and hell Schuller makes a very biblical statement in his book Self-Esteem, the New Reformation: “I am convinced that the deepest of all human needs is salvation from sin and hell.”[4]Then almost immediately he warns, “We come now to the problem of semantics,” followed by “What do I mean by sin?”He gives a number of definitions of sin including, “Sin is any act or thought that robs myself or another human being of his or her self-esteem.”[5]Never mind that self-esteem is not mentioned in the Scriptures, Schuller has now re-defined sin in the light of this modern pop-psychology term.And what about hell?“A person is in hell when he has lost his self-esteem.”[6]The biblical understanding of sin as lawlessness, a rebellion against a holy God, a falling short of His glory and of hell as a real place of eternal judgment, does not play well in the minds of the unredeemed.But psychological categories that classify these things in the light of human suffering do.
The Gospel
One’s view of sin and hell will shape one’s view of the gospel.Schuller’s gospel message is closely attached to his understanding of our purpose on this planet.He offers an “alternative theology of mission [which] focuses on peace, brotherhood, and economic equality.”[7]More than that, “As we focus on Jesus Christ, we shall discover a new theology, one that offers salvation from shame to self-esteem.”[8] As a matter of fact the good news that we are to proclaim is to “tell people everywhere that God wants all of us to feel good about ourselves!”[9] To be born again in Schuller’s theology is not a fundamental change in our nature from sinner to saint; rather it “means that we must be changed from a negative to a positive self-image – from inferiority to self-esteem, from fear to love, from doubt to trust.”[10]
Schuller’s gospel of self-esteem leads to a heaven of sorts,
The glorious hope will be a society of civility where people really treat each other beautifully! And the end result will be transformed and redeemed persons.Persons inwardly secure enough to live open, transparent, and honest lives.Healthy persons who will really feel good about themselves because their ego needs are met in sincere services, rather than in stuffy status.[11]
Depravity
Schuller’s understanding of the gospel stems directly from his misunderstanding of the human condition.In biblical theology mankind’s greatest problem is his lost condition in which he is estranged from God, lost in his sin and rebelliousness, and corrupt in his nature.Schuller rejects this understanding of the human state as shallow and insulting.Instead he insists,
Our rebellion is a reaction, not our nature.By nature we are fearful, not bad.Original sin is not a mean streak; it is a nontrusting inclination.The core of original sin, then is LOT – Lack of Trust.Or it could be considered an innate inability to adequately value ourselves.Label it a “negative self-image,” but do not say that the central core of the human soul is wickedness.If this were so, then truly, the human being is totally depraved.But positive Christianity does not hold to human depravity, but to human inability.”[12]
Schuller’s new reformation is one wrapped around people and human self-esteem.“It is precisely at this point,” he informs us, “that classical theology has erred in its insistence that theology be ‘God-centered,’ not ‘man-centered.’”[13]
God’s Kingdom
Schuller is in line with old school liberals and the new liberals, i.e. the emergent church, when it comes to his understanding of the kingdom of God.For the kingdom
Is a society where the divine spirit of self-respect and self-esteem penetrates the substance, style, strategy, and spirit of human interactions and interrelationships.The self-esteem of each person is accepted unconditionally and irrevocably as that human value which will control all of life.What is the kingdom of God on earth?It is a community of persons who, through an experience of nonjudgmental acceptance and affirmation by Jesus Christ, have been personally redeemed from self-shame to self-esteem.[14]
And just who is in this kingdom of God? “Everyone who does some act that builds self-esteem and self-respect in other persons.”[15]And, “his kingdom is coming and his will is being done every time we act in a way that lifts another person’s dignity.”[16]
What then does God want from people?
“I believe he is trying to build a society of human beings who live out the golden rule... This means that the kingdom of God is that invisible collection of committed Christians that transcends culture, ideologies, nationalistic prejudices, and creeds – all bound by the golden commitment to say nothing and do nothing that would attack self-esteem, the self-respect, and the dignity of any other human being.”[17]
Scripture
All of Schuller’s mangled theology emerges from his convoluted view of Scripture and inspiration.As an example he states, “Luther and Calvin, we know, looked to the Book of Romans in the Bible for their primary inspiration.Were they, unknowingly, possessed more by the spirit of St. Paul than by the Spirit of Jesus Christ?Are we not on safer grounds if we look to our Lord’s words to launch our reformation?”[18]
Some refer to this as the “red-letter view of inspiration” in which the words of Jesus are pitted against the other divinely inspired writers of Scripture and, if there appears to be a difference, Jesus’ words trump all others.
Summary
I could continue on documenting Schuller’s reworking of biblical terms and theology statements, but the reader gets the point.By using the cherished words so precious to those who love biblical Christianity, he identifies with evangelicals.By infusing those words with new meanings, meanings not in line with their Holy Spirit-inspired original intent, he changes the Christian faith to a man-centered belief wrapped around the core of self-esteem.Through the manipulation of truth Schuller makes Christianity more palpable to the world, but at the same time he guts it of its true meaning. Schuller’s new reformation plays well with the unbeliever and the undiscerning Christian, but it does not line up with biblical truth.
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I saw in a newspaper clipping that Dr Robert H Schuller would be speaking at an event in Wichita, Kansas on April 23rd, 2008. He will appear with other speakers (George Foreman, Tom Hopkins & Zig Ziglar) For the life of me, I thought they would appear at the Kansas Colliseum but am unable to confirm that date. Will he speak here on that date? Thank you & may God Bless. Please E-mail me for any confirmation. Click here to reply to this post
Robert Schuller
Posted On: 03/03/08 07:32:07 AM
Age 58, VI
This is an all encompassing subject, and it can never be completely delineated with mere comments. However, the Bible is very explicit in concisely stating that NO ONE can change one jot or tittle of its truth deliberately and bear good fruits. Schuller, as well as thousands of other "New Age Christians" out there are eagerly complicit in this dissemination of the anathema to which Paul and God emphatically refer and detest. I, as an instructor of history in college, know beyond a shadow of a doubt that the truth of the Word, raima, which gives utterance to the truth of the Word, logos, is absolute truth. Over 10,000 prophecies have literally come true just as the prophets propohesied they would. Many of those end time prophecies refer to the great "Falling Away" which we are currently witnessing. PLEASE come quickly LORD JESUS! Click here to reply to this post
Focus on self- or Focus on Christ
Posted On: 02/27/08 09:49:54 PM
Age 42, FL
I've been a born again Christian only for 10 years, and I have made plenty of mistakes since then. I suppose if I paid more attention to Mr. Schuller, he would say that I haven't felt good enough about myself yet, and that is my only sin problem. I may not be the brightest bulb in the lamp, but I was always had the idea that our being born again meant being a new life in Christ- that through the work of the Holy Spirit, which will be a continuous work until we reach heaven, we will become more like Christ. That we are to keep our eyes and focus on Him (as with Peter wanting to walk on water- but taking his eyes off Jesus began to sink) to throw off ourselves and put on Jesus. Am I wrong in believing this? If so- I'd still rather believe the Word of God, than the empty promises of men like Mr. Schuller and the emergent church. It makes me sad that so many new in the faith, and maybe even plenty of seasoned Christians are being led down a wide path that leads to death- not to Jesus- the ONLY way, the truth and the life. Click here to reply to this post
Encouraging
Posted On: 02/28/08 12:03:26 PM
Age 57, CANADA
Your post is very encouraging to me. Thank you. As long as we regard the bible as the authoratative Word of God, we can avoid the error that seems to creep in. Click here to reply to this post
THE WORD OF GOD
Posted On: 02/29/08 09:51:02 PM
Age 64, OH
I agree that the Bible is The Book and no other book compares to it. Every letter of the Holy Scriptures are inspired by The Holy Spirit of The Lord Jesus Christ. But as to what The Book says about The Word of God: The Book never calls itself The Word of God and Jesus Himself who Is the Word of God calls The Book The Holy Scriptures. We are to worship only The Creator and no the creation, and The Book is part of the creation that is created by The Creator, The Word of God. Lou Click here to reply to this post
More of the same
Posted On: 02/27/08 08:25:36 PM
Age 83, KS
This reads somewhat like Oprah (not a personal attach she proclaims it) and her new age belief. Maybe a little different in that Oprah and other new agers consider themselves as God.
But if you really just see yourself as self sufficient and purely feeling good about oneself, pretty close to feeling.
you are Go
I'm certainly not happy with the road that some are taking. Yes, it is broad and many who take it. Click here to reply to this post
Do these leaders read the bible?
Posted On: 02/27/08 07:30:05 PM
Age 41, CANADA
What I find amazing when I read articles like this about the likes of Schuller, Warren et al; is it is SO obvious they are deceived! How can they NOT see what they are preaching is false? Don;t they read their bibles? If so, what bible are they reading? I can't believe my eyes sometimes (or ears) when i hear these things!
Jesus come quickly! Click here to reply to this post
God sends them a powerful delusion
Posted On: 02/28/08 05:57:12 AM
Age 53, VA
I too wonder how they are unable to see the lies that they preach/teash. The Bible gives us the answer.
2 Thessalonians 2:9-12
The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with the work of Satan displayed in all kinds of counterfeit miracles, signs and wonders, and in every sort of evil that deceives those who are perishing. They perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie and so that all will be condemned who have not believed the truth but have delighted in wickedness. Click here to reply to this post
Yes, but...
Posted On: 02/27/08 05:18:40 PM
Age 47, MO
Gary:
I see your point and agree that Schuller is up to no good. However, to dismerch Gary Smalley, Chuck Colson, Kay Warren, John Ortberg, Nancy Ortberg, Lee Strobel and George Barna by association is not "kosher". Perhaps they were there to add salt to the otherwise tasteless stew. Perhaps they entered the lions den to wrestle with the lion. Perhaps they followed Christ's example and taught in the synogog's of Satan. Do you have proof otherwise? I tire of these alligations against the other members of the body who don't smell the same as we do. Especially when we forget our location is under the tunic. John Click here to reply to this post
Dismerch?
Posted On: 02/28/08 06:27:01 AM
Age 63, FL
Perhaps the writer meant "besmirch," meaning to sully or dirty someone's reputation. I suspect so.
Gilley, however, does no such thing. I read no criticism, implied or otherwise, in his words re: the Re-Think Conference. He simply tells us who has accepted the invitation to participate, and perhaps hints that the net was spread pretty widely in casting the invitations.
I have no idea what these folks' motives were in being part of this conference. Perhpas they will do some good. They do, however, lend credence to the philosophy behind it, a philosophy that oozes from the pores of Shuler, and is correctly identified in Gilley's posting. In my mind, Shuler is one of the most dangerous pseudo-evangelicals in the world today. His doctrine is pure apostacy, and those who accept his invitations to "come...and reason together" will be causght up in his duplicity. Jesus often associated with the publicans and sinners, but it would be hard to imagine Gary Smalley delivering the Matthew 23 message to the "scribes, Pharisees, hypocrites." There will be no such rebuke at the "Re-Think" Conference, but ther should be! Click here to reply to this post
"Shuler"?
Posted On: 02/28/08 03:04:40 PM
Age 47, MO
I don't disagree with what you say, but again we are assuming and making judgement calls based upon what is "hard to imagine". What is harder to imagine is that Christian liberty has gone out the window as Christians engage in group think and follow the sway of the self appointed watch dogs, instead of the leading of the HS. I again ask: What have Gary Smalley, Chuck Colson, Kay Warren, John Ortberg, Nancy Ortberg, Lee Strobel and George Barna said contracy to Scripture? Where's the proof of their error? (I don't doubt there is error: but it is not Christian to assume it.) How is assuming someone's guilt any more Christian than the guilt they supposedly have? If we are guilty by association you better stay in Church- not any church, only those approved by the ankle biters. Read Colossians about Christian liberty. Thanks for being my online dictionary. John Click here to reply to this post
Agreed
Posted On: 02/28/08 12:32:39 PM
Age 68, CO
I agree with you age 63 Fl, Gilley did not besimrch, however if they accept the invite and do not give a verbal bold rebuke when given an opportunity to speak, they besmirch themselves, I pray for their boldness and willingness to recieve the grace to suffer for the reviling and persecution that will surley come if they do so. Click here to reply to this post
You are so right
Posted On: 02/28/08 12:23:53 PM
Age 68, CO
I could not agree with you more, it remains to be seen if they have been besmirched, if they go to the conference and do not boldy procaim the apostosy of Schuler while speaking they besmirch themselves. I wonder if they are bold enough and are willing to suffer the reviling and persecution that would come from such and act. We shall see. Their actions and words at this conference will shout out who they are aligned with, Jesus or Schuller. Click here to reply to this post
Elect fallen away if possible
Posted On: 02/27/08 02:13:26 PM
Age 42, SD
2 Timothy 1:8 portrays true believers
"Do not be ashamed to testify about our Lord, or ashamed of me his prisoner. But join with me in suffering for the gospel, by the power of God, who saved us and called us to a holy life-not because of anything we have done but because of his own purpose and grace. This grace was given us in Christ Jesus before the beginning of time, but it has now been revealed through the appearing of our Savior, Christ Jesus, who has destsroyed death and brought life and immortality to light through the gospel. And of this gospel I was appointed a herald and an apostle and a teacher. That is why I am suffering as I am. Yet I am not ashamed, because I know whom I have believed, and am convinced that he is able to guard what I have entrusted to him for that day. What you heard from me, keep as the pattern of sound teaching, with faith and love in Chhisr Jesus."
Now for the other false teachers such as Schuller- 2 Timothy 3 1-9 But mark this: There will be terrible times in the last days. People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud,(i.e., accepting yourself and building self-esteem)abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, without love, unforgiving, slanderous, without self control, brutal, not lovers of the good, treatcherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure than lovers of God-having a form of godliness but denying its power. Have nothing to do with them. They are the kind who worm their way into homes and gain control over weak-willed women, (i.e, pleading for money through the TV) who are loaded down with sins and are swayed by all kinds of evil desires, always learning but never able to acknowledge the truth. (i.e., these false prophets are always learning and writing, but apart from God's true Word)
Just as Jannes and Jambres opposed Moses, so also these men oppose the trugh-men of depraved minds, who, as far as the faith is concerned, are rejected. But they will not get very far because, as in the case of those men, their folly will be clear to everyone."
Hopefully this sight will expose their folly to many, and true beleivers stop listening to them, and call on them, in the view of God's mercy and grace to turn from their heresy before Jesus returns again to say to them, "Depart from me you workers of iniquity, for I never knew you. Click here to reply to this post
Schuller
Posted On: 02/27/08 12:24:11 PM
Age 43, AR
The Bible tells us that even the very elect will be decieved. This emergent church sounds like the beginning of the "anti"-Christ reign to me. Everyone involved in the emergent church are his puppets and are allowing themselves be decieved because their ears are being tickled and they are being told what they want to hear. For some strange reason, they do not want to follow the truth and are overcome by lies and the father of lies. Click here to reply to this post
Scripture
Posted On: 03/06/08 04:36:49 PM
Age 40, CA
Matthew 24:24, "For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and miracles to deceive even the elect—if that were possible." "...if that were possible." Jesus is saying that the deceit will be so great that if it weren't for the help and guidance of the Holy Spirit in us, even we, the elect would be fooled. Click here to reply to this post
Robert Schuller--Mr. Heresy
Posted On: 02/26/08 04:48:38 PM
Age 61, MO
Robert Schuller doesn’t simply teach false doctrine once in awhile. He promotes THE false doctrine of man's glory. Indeed, his written works, and ministry, are totally defined by this false teaching; although we may not hear them on his Hour of Power. The bottom line of his teaching is: Man is not really guilty of anything except not loving himself enough. And so, the solution for man is not repentance of sin, and then salvation through death and resurrection in Christ. The solution is to be AFFIRMED: to have one’s self-esteem enhanced.
George Cancilla Click here to reply to this post
Birds of a feather
Posted On: 02/26/08 02:01:02 PM
Age 45, PA
Schuller and Billy Graham are birds of a feather, both friends, both flesh, both frauds. BG is king of the man made, flesh church in America. Click here to reply to this post
re: birds of a feather
Posted On: 02/29/08 10:52:55 AM
Age 52, GA
How do you substantiate that attack on Dr. Graham? He has preached numerous times on the deceitfulness of the heart, and against succumbing to the desires of the flesh. His sermons (that I know of) have always included repenting - turning from sin, and submitting to the Lordship of Jesus Christ. In my humble opinion, the accuser above, should repent of unsubstantiated attacks on the brethren, and focus on sharing the good news with the lost. Click here to reply to this post
Graham vs. Schuller
Posted On: 02/28/08 05:58:28 AM
Age 61, MO
Although I disapprove of grandstanding for Jesus as typified by Billy Graham, I consider Graham to be a purveyor of correct Biblical doctrine. It is unfair to call him a fraud. It can be unhealthy to have icons of the faith no matter what their doctrine. George Cancilla Click here to reply to this post
"Grandstanding"?
Posted On: 03/18/08 09:56:40 PM
Age 36, TX
I agree with everything you said, but could you clairfy what you mean by "grandstanding"? And how is it that Graham does this, as you assert? Thank you & God bless. Click here to reply to this post
Owen
Posted On: 02/27/08 02:24:24 PM
Age 60, NEW ZEALAND
Could we not have some grace, humility and love here? I owe my Christian experience to Billy Graham and his faithful proclamation of a true gospel and commitment to honouring the Lord as do countless others. The personal attacks here smack of arrogance and an absence of the graciousness of Christ. Click here to reply to this post
Re: Billy Graham
Posted On: 03/03/08 10:33:13 PM
Age 53, MI
I cannot disagree more regarding Billy Graham as a "grandstanding" and "king of the man made... church in America." If it were not for his faithful preaching of the Word I would not know the Lord nor would I be responding to these posts. He was my first exposure to the Jesus Christ of the Bible and a continuing example of faithfulness and humility thoughout my life. Click here to reply to this post
Who is your Foundation
Posted On: 02/28/08 07:43:36 AM
Age 32, VA
I agree with "Owen"s reply to "Birds of a Feather". But, regardlles of the earthly influence that points you to God our foundation MUST be Jesus the Christ. We as CHRISTAINS are call to be followers of JESUS not followers of Billy Gram, the Aposle Paul, or any one else. Click here to reply to this post