Posted: 06/05/2007
I'm suing gayHarmony By Janet Folger
I'm suing gayHarmony for discrimination.
That's right. Because without having checked, I'm certain there isn't a single homosexual site or publication that offers what I'm looking for:
A heterosexual pro-life Christian who likes long walks on the beach and wants to help fight unequal justice mandated in the speech-restricting "hate crimes" bill.
Those bigoted heterophobes. Before you call the thought police, I don't really think the homosexual publications should be forced to cater to me. But unfortunately, that tolerance is not reciprocated. Lesbian Linda Carlson of San Francisco is suing eHarmony because she can't find a date. They don't offer a category for "lesbian bullies seeking women," so she wants to bully eHarmony until they do.
My advice to eHarmony: Stand strong for your freedom of conscience or you'll invite a whole new batch of lawsuits from:
The Mary Kay LeTerneau's of the world because there's no "teachers seeking students" category;
The Pete the Pedophiles – for age discrimination (no "men seeking children" category);
Chris the Cross Dresser – because there's no category for cross dressers (and whatever they seek), leading people online to believe that he's just a very ugly woman.
Our next category is attacking private business owners. That's nothing new for the homosexual activists. Scott Brockie was fined because he didn't want to print homosexual propaganda; he's $170,000 in debt for his religious beliefs.
What of the two doctors who refused to artificially inseminate a lesbian woman? Her case was upheld by a California appeals court. Jennifer Pizer, the lesbian's attorney, clarified the legal position on "Hannity and Colmes": "When the doctor is in her church, she can do religion, but not in the medical office." Let me translate: As long as you stay in your religious ghetto, you can believe and say what you want, but you better not try that "freedom of religion" thing in public.
How did we get here?
In 1963, the New York Academy of Medicine charged its Committee on Public Health to report on homosexuality because they feared it was on the increase. The Committee reported:
[H]omosexuality is indeed an illness. The homosexual is an emotionally disturbed individual who has not acquired the normal capacity to develop satisfying heterosexual relations.
But just 10 years later, everything changed. In 1973, the American Psychiatric Association voted to strike homosexuality from the officially approved list of psychiatric illnesses. Why was this done?
As Jeffrey Satinover, M.D., details in his book, "Homosexuality and the Politics of Truth":
Ronald Bayer, then a Fellow at the Hastings Institute in New York, reported that in 1970, homosexual activists within the APA planned a "systematic effort to disrupt the annual meetings of the American Psychiatric Association."
Like bullies on the playground, homosexual activists didn't want to play by the rules. You know, the rules that say if you want to influence a body of science, you should conduct properly designed studies and build scientific research that makes your case. No. There weren't any scientific studies like that (still aren't). No problem, just harass and intimidate those scientists who present properly designed studies that you don't like. Like Dr. Irving Bieber, prominent psychoanalyst and psychiatrist, who presented a paper on "homosexuality and transsexualism" at the 1970 APA convention. Instead of challenging his findings by questioning the accuracy of his research methods, they just disrupted his presentation. Way easier. Especially when there isn't any research to support your position.
Imagine the prestigious, scientific setting of the APA conference where Dr. Bieber presents his study – homosexual activists employ what has become their customary tactic: fear and intimidation. As Bieber begins to present his research, homosexual attendees loudly mock and laugh at him. They further disrupt his presentation by shouting and calling him names and making threats, suggesting he deserved to be "drawn and quartered." If we said something like that about homosexuals, it'd be a "hate crime."
On May 3, 1971, the psychiatrist protesters broke into a meeting of distinguished members of their profession and grabbed the microphone – giving it to one of their allied outside activists, who proclaimed:
Psychiatry is the enemy incarnate. Psychiatry has waged a relentless war of extermination against us. You may take this as a declaration of war against you. … We're rejecting you all as our owners.
"No one raised an objection," recounts Dr. Satinover. Their disruption was met with more reconciliation and an appearance before the APA's Committee on Nomenclature. Further bullying and lobbying delivered the committee vote that maybe, just maybe, homosexual behavior was not a sign of psychiatric disorder after all.
By the time of the 1973 APA convention, the group announced its new "finding" with only 15 minutes for dissenters to discuss 70 years of psychiatric research to the contrary. The hijacked vote was formally appealed to the full membership. But activists already had a letter drafted, in part by friends at the National Gay Taskforce, urging a vote to "retain the nomenclature change," which was sent to the 30,000 APA members with the money the NGTF had raised.
Of course, no one let on to APA members that the letter came from homosexual activists, as Dr. Bayer revealed, "that would have been 'the kiss of death.'" But the letter drafted and paid for by the NGTF was able to secure a majority response from a third of the members who responded. But the vast majority was not behind the change. How do I know? Four years later, the Medical Journal Aspects of Human Sexuality reported a survey showing "69 percent of psychiatrists disagreed with the vote and still considered homosexuality a disorder."
But it didn't stop there. The American Psychological Association recently published a study favorable to pedophilia – you know, child molestation. If you call it "Adult-child sex," it doesn't sound as bad.
But this trial balloon looked more like the Hindenburg after Dr. Laura Schlesinger got done with it. Thank you, Dr. Laura.
Caving to public pressure, APA executive director Raymond Fowler later denounced it as "reprehensible." Really? For how long? Then why was this trash published in the APA journal in the first place? Oh yeah, because they thought they could get away with that, too.
It was shortly after that APA article appeared that I received my first hate letter for my stand against child molestation. I was called an "intolerant Nazi" for opposing child abuse because, after all, the APA said it was OK! I thought you might like a glimpse into what's coming. The tactics of "threats over research" may take us there again soon.
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Re: I'm Suing GayHarmony
Posted On: 06/06/07 10:51:16 PM
Age 19, CANADA
Hmm, i actually enjoyed the article and thought it had a good point but Jesus did say, "Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me. Rejoice and be glad... (Matt. 5:11,12a) so instead of complaining about the state of the world maybe we should weep over it and yet rejoice at our blessings? Click here to reply to this post
Re: I'm Suing GayHarmony
Posted On: 06/06/07 06:14:16 PM
Age 17, IN
Although I see where you are all coming from in being upset about what is happening, I'm not so sure that suing them or protesting is quite the way to go. I don't recall any times in the Bible when Jesus went around suing people or recruiting people to protest. If I recall correctly, what he did do was love them and show them that what they were doing was wrong, in a loving way. He was never hateful or in people's faces about how horrible they were. I just feel you should all rethink your statements about suing people and protesting. That will only cause them to resent you more and continue to tune you out. Click here to reply to this post
Re: Re: I'm Suing GayHarmony
Posted On: 06/07/07 11:22:48 AM
Age 68, MA
It would be easier to recall what Jesus did & said if you read the Book. One thing He isn't, and that's wishy washy. Matt 23:25 "Woe to you scribes and Pharisees,hypocrites ! for you make clean the outside of the cup and of the platter, but within they are full of extortion and excess." And so on.... Matt 23:27 "Woe to you scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites ! for you are like whited sepulchers ( whitewashed tombs, folks ) " which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleaness."
How about Matt 23:33 " You serpents, you generation of vipers, how can you escape the damnation of hell?" Oh yeah, and He threw the moneychangers out of the temple with with a whip He made Himself. Jesus is no sixties, hippie type going about saying "peace & love man."
Rev. 19:11 " And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and He that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness He does judge and make war."
Rev. 19;15 " And out of His mouth goes a sharp sword, that with it He should smite the nations; and He shall rule them with a rod of iron: and He treads the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God." He is the same yesterday, today and forever.( That quotation is in the Bible too.) He has not and will not change.
So, please stop making Jesus into some namby pamby sin tolerator that makes you comfortable. That is an idol of you own imagining. Click here to reply to this post
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Posted On: 06/12/07 03:16:33 PM
Age 19, CANADA
I agree more with mr. 17 year old. (but maybe it is because i haven't developed a proper theology yet you thinks, lol.) Although it is true that Jesus did get in people's faces he still did it in love. Jesus did not tolerate sin but he did love his lost children.
"When the pharisees saw this, they asked his disciples, "Why does your teacher eat with tax collectors and 'sinners'?" On hearing this, Jesus said, "It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick. But go and learn what this means: 'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' For I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners." (Mt. 9:11-13)
Twenty-thirty years ago people viewed homosexuals similarly as to how Jews viewed samaritans in Jesus' day and women were lower class, yet when Jesus spoke with the samaritan woman at the well he did not condemn her for her sin (adultery seven-fold) he offfered her eternal life. (John 4:14)
A rather popular verse sheds some light on this John 3:17 reads, "For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world but to save the world through him." Click here to reply to this post
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Posted On: 06/08/07 12:16:59 AM
Age 62, TX
I appreciate your position and agree with you. But I also remember when I was 17. I'm so grateful my spiritual growth and Bible study wasn't complete at that age! You're right in the point you make, though. So many people of all ages only think of Jesus as the redemptive Lamb of God of the First Coming. Very little is preached or taught about the Jesus of the Second Coming, Who is King of Kings and Lord of Lords, of Rev. 19, when He comes as Judge, rather than Lamb. God's perfect mercy requires perfect justice, because He is perfect. Click here to reply to this post
Re: I'm Suing GayHarmony
Posted On: 06/06/07 02:41:10 PM
Age 20, NC
I think maybe Dr. (Neil Clark) Warren is beginning to regret even coming up with the eHarmony concept in the first place. Click here to reply to this post
Re: I'm Suing GayHarmony
Posted On: 06/06/07 02:26:58 PM
Age 57, VT
Its Revelations unfolding and it will have to run its course sorry to say. They will all have their day in Gods court. We must not get sidetracked from what we know is right. These are the devils devious distractions. Think about it. Click here to reply to this post
Re: I'm Suing GayHarmony
Posted On: 06/06/07 02:21:06 PM
Age 56, IL
I prefer to stay out of court.
I remember seeing a bumper sticker which said, "A bad day fishing is better than a good day at work."
If I owned a bumper sticker manufacturing company I would make one which said, "A bad day at work is better than a good day in court, even if you win your case."
Don't ask the many horrified poeple who have taken their problems to court and have been refused justice.
But if I did sue e-Harmony it would be because they took my money, refused to refund it when they spent two months matching me with Mormons.
I told them I wanted to be matched only with Christians, and that denomination was not important.
To eHarmony, Mormon is just another Christian religion.
And that's why I no longer want anything to do with e-Harmony.
Pastor Art McCoy Click here to reply to this post
Re: I'm Suing GayHarmony
Posted On: 06/06/07 12:23:08 PM
Age 49, CA
Because of time restraints, I have not read the whole article but as I sped-read the article, you had me at the title.
I actually want Janet to go threw with the law suit. You'll have my full support.
What a battle we are up against. Make sure soldiers of Christ, put on the Armor of God daily!
Sis-in-Christ,
Dede Click here to reply to this post
Re: I'm Suing GayHarmony
Posted On: 06/06/07 11:52:52 AM
Age 22, OH
I find this article really offensive. I don't know how comparing a gay person (or a crossdresser) looking for love (a perfectly legal things) to a pedaphile or teacher with a student (illegal things) helps at all? You seem very spiteful towards the gay community. The reason things like the court case about the insemination of a lesbian was held up was to keep as far away from what happened in the 60's as possible. If you remember correct in the 60's and before there were many doctors who refused to perform basic operations on black people (I know there was one hospital near where I used to live that would turn them away and make the ambulance drive an extra 40 minutes to the next hospital). Because of that the general legislation now is that in certain professions you have to help everyone no matter what they want or who they are regardless of your own beliefs as long as what they're asking is legal. This should be an ideal, it prevents racism and other -isms from forming. Instead you bash on gays...very godly of you. Click here to reply to this post
Re: Re: I'm Suing GayHarmony
Posted On: 06/08/07 12:35:28 AM
Age 62, TX
I'm hopeful because of your young age. But the immorality of the world today makes it urgent that you get into the Bible, preferably with someone who is a sound Christian with a good understanding of it, and find out what it says about homosexuality. In your post you separated lifestyles that are illegal from the lifestyle of homosexuality. That was quite a revelation to the readers out here. It does not matter what the law of a nation or a man says if it goes against the law of God. And homosexuality is most definitely a grave sin in both the New Testament and the Old Testament. The Bible says a Christian is "the Temple of the Holy Spirit." What you're talking about defiles that Temple, and is unnatural; it's against the way God intended the human body to be joined with another. Please be happy that people cared enough to answer you, even with strong words, because it shows they care about you, and they feel strongly about something that you don't realize will cause a person to spend eternity in hell. It would please me if you'd post again after you've been in the Bible and done some reading on this. May God Bless You!---with understanding and faith. Click here to reply to this post
Re: Re: I'm Suing GayHarmony
Posted On: 06/06/07 08:55:06 PM
Age 52, OH
I hope Christian parents who have their children in public schools so that the unfortunate children can be "missionaries" or "lights" study this post written by Age 22, OH. This is just the type of garbage I would expect from someone who was indoctrinated and poorly educated by public schools to write. First of all, the grammar is atrocious. Secondly, there is a huge ethical difference between refusing to perform an elective procedure such as artificial insemination and refusing to treat a person with a physical ailment in the emergency room. Thirdly, just because something is legal does not make it right. Abortion is legal but no one should be forced to perform abortions or to dispense abortifacient medication. God's law transcends man's law! Either public schools or society has succeeded in having this person embrace a politically correct, amoral worldview. This really points out the importance of ministries such as Worldview Weekend and Summit as well as good Christian schooling. Click here to reply to this post
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Posted On: 06/07/07 10:50:08 AM
Age 68, MA
Amen to that. First, I doubt that 22 is a Christian, but would like us to think so. Second, the lack of critical analysis of the article ( much less the comprehension of its contents ) would likely point to a public school 'education'. Students are not taught to think & reason, but follow the blueprint set out by the NEA. Spelling ? Well, you saw who won the National Scripps-Howard spelling competition. That speaks volumes.
The author bashes gays ? Did 22 even get it that their behavior was the problem ? Not having read the Bible, 22 doesn't know about 1 Cor 6:9 which clearly condemns 'gay' behavior. This prohibition can be found in many places in the Bible, such as in Leviticus 20:13 "If a man also lie with mankind, as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination" ( a detestable act)": they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them." Is 22 going to upbraid God for bashing them ? Let 22 go ahead & argue with God,& see how far that gets one. You see God made the rules,not you. Don't like His rules ? Oh, well.
Rev. 22:15-16 " Blessed are they that do His commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city." ( That's the New Jerusalem, 22) " For outside are dogs, and sorcerers, and WHOREMONGERs, and murderers, and idolators, and whosoever loves and makes a lie." Got news for you 22, tolerating sin is a lie, and homosexual behavior is sin. Tolerating evil will get you outside the gates of the city If you really love the homosexual you will tell them the truth. By all means be kind to the person, but don't neglect to speak the truth about the sin. Of course, be prepared to be reviled when you do. Click here to reply to this post
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Posted On: 06/06/07 10:59:43 PM
Age 19, CANADA
For someone talking about missionaries and light you should perhaps allow your conversation (or typing) to be 'seasoned with salt' and treat image-bearers with love and respect. you can kindly instruct and encourage but useing words like garbage and abhorrent are not loving. (and don't pull a "jesus said to the pharisees" here.) Click here to reply to this post
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Posted On: 06/07/07 05:01:17 PM
Age 50, MS
Do you know what the instruction to be "Salt and Light" means?
To elaborate on the meaning of this instruction, and thus reveal it's meaning, an examination of the role of salt in practical usage should be made. Salt, moreso in Jesus' day than in ours, has many purposes. It is used not only to season, but also to preserve (for example, in making such foods as fermented pickles and sauerkraut) and to irritate and heal (examples: a salt water gargle will often heal a sore throat, or soaking an infected toenail in hot salt water will clear up the issue forthwith). The message you can draw from these facts is that salt has certain properties that prevent the nasties from growing in foods or in wounds.
The purpose of light is to dispel the darkness. Darkness cannot exist in the presence of light.
Somehow, we have drawn and dispensed the myth that Christians are to be mamby-pamby, roll-ever-and-play-dead pacifists. Nothing could be further from the truth. We are called to be instruments (light) that illuminate evil and agents that dispels it.
The definition of evil has been set by almighty God. It is not ours to tinker with. I don't think we are supposed to be militant about it, but we ARE to be courageous and unyielding in standing for right. God's Word is our Law...it is NOT a cafeteria plan...we either take it all, or we take none. Click here to reply to this post
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Posted On: 06/13/07 12:40:39 AM
Age 19, CANADA
I think you misunderstood me. I was not referring to matt. 5 but to Colossions 4:5-6 which reads, "Be wise in the way you act toward outsiders; make the most of every opportunity. Let your conversation be always full of grace, seasoned with salt, so that you may know how to answer everyone." The post i was replying to did not have these characteristics so i was trying to remind about what was claimed to be known. Click here to reply to this post
Re: I'm Suing GayHarmony
Posted On: 06/06/07 11:31:49 AM
Age 61, WA
I was just wondering if we could get the ACLU to sue GayHarmony for us? Maybe they'd be willing to help us put together a protest in DC against those hate crime bills that are pending? After all isn't all that discrimination against Christians? Certainly the hate crime bills are not only discrimination against Christians but they also threaten the freedom of speech that's guaranteed to us all in the US Constitution, not to mention the freedom of religion.
Seems to me this is all right up the ACLU's alley. But then again, I suppose it would be a conflict of interest since they're the ones who started this whole mess to begin with.
Just for the record; I will stand on the Word of God and I will speak my beliefs to anyone who's willing to listen. I don't force myself on anyone but I won't back down either. God's way is the only way and if they want to arrest me for that, I'm ready to go. Prison is a great place to evangelize! Click here to reply to this post
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