Recently a letter writer in my local paper has forced me to amend a New Year's resolution to be a kinder, gentler columnist; but for good cause I abandon that vow. This gentleman, by virtue of his last two letters, has demonstrated that he can spoon feed us revisionist history with fragmented quotations and rhetorical quips pasted from the latest Richard Dawkins book, or his favorite atheist website. His quotes didn't address the actual issue I raised (whether America must be neutral in acknowledgment of God), but I will deal with his red herrings anyway.
He quotes Benjamin Franklin saying, "Lighthouses are more useful than churches." However, at the Constitutional Convention Franklin suggested praying for guidance in the midst of rancorous impasse saying...
"...how has it happened, Sir, that we have not hitherto once thought of humbly applying to the Father of lights to illuminate our understanding?"
Franklin may not have liked churches, but he apparently thought of God as the ultimate lighthouse.
The John Adam's quote he used is from a letter to Thomas Jefferson on April 19th, 1817, where he discusses the petty quarrels of two clergymen he knew. The full quote reads...
"Twenty times in the course of my reading have I been on the point of breaking out, 'This world would be the best of all possible worlds, if there were no religion in it.' But in this exclamation I would have been as fanatical as Byrant or Cleverly. Without religion this world would be something not fit to be mentioned, I mean hell."
The sentence in bold (or single quotes) was the quotation as he gave it.
This writer also cites Article 11 in the Treaty of Tripoli, declaring that America was not founded as a Christian nation. If he had done more homework, he would know there is some controversy regarding the authenticity of Article 11 in the treaty. In order to grant everything in his favor though, I will argue assuming the quote is genuine. For that reason, we will devote much editorial capital to this position.
The words of Article 11 were apparently acknowledged with the approval of President John Adam's administration and the Congressat that time.
"As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility, of Mussulmen; and, as the said States never entered into any war, or act of hostility against any Mahometan nation, it is declared by the parties, that no pretext arising from religious opinions, shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries."
My letter didn't make the claim that America was founded as a Christian nation, but if I had, I would ask about this statement, appearing only 16 years after the treaty was signed. John Adams said in a letter to Jefferson in June of 1813...
“The general principles on which the fathers achieved independence were … the general principles of Christianity … now I will avow that I then believed, and now believe, that those general principles of Christianity are as eternal and immutable as the existence and attributes of God..."
In the words of a popular game show of yesteryear, we might reply in exasperation, "will the real John Adams please stand up?"
Any objective view of history should seek to reconcile seemingly contradictory passages, not fixate on a few selected quotes that fit an ideological agenda, while ignoring the preponderance of evidence. So let's look at the issue more carefully.
It would not have been necessary to claim America was not founded as a Christian nation, unless someone suspected that it was, and such perception made the treaty's implementation problematic without such repudiation.
The even-handed surveyor of history, might also wonder about the preface in the Treaty of Paris(with Christian England), which reads, "In the name of the holy and undivided Trinity
I could well accept that such language was the formal diplomatic speak of the age, if the same presumptions of diplomacy were applied to the language and the intent behind Article 11 in The Treaty of Tripoli. It seems clear to me, that the context of Article 11 coupled with a historical knowledge of the conflicts between Barbary nations and European powers, refers to a long-standing inclination toward religiously motivated wars, going back to the Crusades. I believe this was an attempt at eggshell diplomacy by the Adams Administration, to distance themselves from the baggage of past European history. In modern times, we have the same strategy being played out when President Bush emphatically declares Islam to be a religion of peace. Despite the president’s effort, many Imams still claim to their laity, that the conflict in Iraq is really an assault on Islam-a religious war.
Much else has already been written (I can't improve upon these essays) on reconciling the Treaty of Tripoli with the claims contrary to Article 11, so I will finish with one final point. We often hear pundits talk of America as a democracy; that is, of the people, by the people, and for the people. Then, when it comes to the issue of America's ideological foundations, they want to limit the discussion to a few select quotes from certain Founders, while ignoring the zeitgeist of the general population? They apply either a populist analysis or elitist analysis as in suits them.
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Thomas Jefferson
"Millions of innocent men, women, and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined, and imprisoned; yet we have not advanced one inch toward uniformity. What has been the effect of coercion? To make one-half the world fools and the other half hypocrites. To support roguery and error all over the earth."
"And let us reflect that, having banished from our land that religious intolerance under which mankind so long bled and suffered, we have yet gained little if we countenance a political intolerance as despotic, as wicked, and capable of as bitter and bloody persecutions.... error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it.... I deem the essential principles of our government.... Equal and exact justice to all men, of whatever state or persuasion, religious or political; ... freedom of religion, freedom of the press, and freedom of person under the protection of the habeas corpus, and trial by juries impartially selected."
"I am for freedom of religion, & against all maneuvres to bring about a legal ascendancy of one sect over another."
"In every country and in every age, the priest has been hostile to liberty. He is always in alliance with the despot, abetting his abuses in return for protection to his own. It is easier to acquire wealth and power by this combination than by deserving them, and to effect this, they have perverted the purest religion ever preached to man into mystery and jargon, unintelligible to all mankind, and therefore the safer engine for their purposes." Click here to reply to this post
Re: Misleading quotations about our Founders
Posted On: 01/16/07 07:40:26 AM
Age 51, GA
I think a case can be made that the Tripoli treaty was simply a cowardly act by a young nation to avoid conflict at all costs. Diplomats by their nature are not bold in their faith, and rarely if ever chosen for their missionary qualities. Of course, the treaty being ratified as written, represents a clear denial of what the majority in the United States held to be true, that Christ is Lord. Any allowances for other religions besides Christianity were made possibly for the few free thinkers, and more likely a small Jewish population. No doubt they would have been more bold in their faith if there had been an imminent incursion by the muslims on American shores. May all muslims come out of the deception, and learn that Christ is the way, the truth, and the life! Click here to reply to this post
Re: Misleading quotations about our Founders
Posted On: 01/15/07 11:24:28 AM
Age 20, MN
Even if the founders liked religion and christianity, that doesnt mean they necessarily wanted america to be entirely christian. They even agreed upon not establishing any religion, and that eliminates christianity. Even if they wanted a christian nation, they would have never attained it for long. The concept of a christian nation is void, it cannot and has never worked, not even Old Testament Israel could hold onto it for long. God blessed them, they said "yay, God", and then quickly turned their backs on him, and the cycle repeated for a couple thousand years. The christian nations of europe under catholicism failed, and the "christian" nation america killed off Native Americans and took advantage of them in the name of God, had slavery until the mid 1800's, had racism until the 1970's. Yeah, we have problems now too, but we have always had problems that would not be signs of a successful christian nation. What is the point of creating a christian nation anyway??? God cares about lost souls first and foremost, so foccus on that. The ONLY way the church will start the winds of change in this country is by getting the people to change because politics will never accomplish any decent amount of good. Click here to reply to this post
Sorry...
Posted On: 01/17/07 10:16:38 AM
Age 18, MN
I meant, "that Christian nations aren't necessarily bad" not "are necessarily bad". Have a great day!! Click here to reply to this post
Re: Re: Misleading quotations about our Founders
Posted On: 01/16/07 10:54:14 AM
Age 18, MN
We are called to be salt and light to the nations, so that's one reason that Christian nations are necessarily bad (from a Christian's perspective at least). Now, realize that the founders recognized two things. One: They knew that a nation that was not founded on Christianity was already going to get into trouble. Two: They also recognized man's sinfulness (which is a Biblical concept), so that's why they developed the republic form of govt., to create checks an balances. Now, as far as slavery, taking over Indian lands, etc. that is part of our ugly history as a nation. However, I must point out some things: Many people who fought against slavery and other evils in society were Christians. Also, we must recognize that a "Christian nation" doesn't mean everyone should be a Christian. It does however, mean, that the govt. was structured after a Biblical framework, that Christianity was what was going to keep America alive as a nation and should be allowed in the mainstream and that education should be taught from a Biblical perspective. Yes, we have had slavery, yes we have had racism, and yes, the only way to change a country is really change the people's hearts and minds, which changes the culture. Right now, our country in most culture aspects is pushing Christianity out the door, whether in entertainment, govt., education, etc. And many Christians aren't always thinking God's thoughts after Him. In education for example, evolution is science, sexual immorality is educational, Truth is person-dependent, etc. That is not how our eduction was a century or even really half-a-century ago. We don't have a Christian culture today in America, we have a Postmodern-Humanistic culture. It is a hostile worldview and it's members (on the whole, not the specific) want Christianity to surrender the whole culture. Sharing the gospel is part of Great Commission. We are to make disciples, which means that we are to make students of God, which means we need to not only lead people to Christ, we need to feed them God's Word so that they can influence the culture to glorify God. Have a great day! Click here to reply to this post
Re: Re: Misleading quotations about our Founders
Posted On: 01/15/07 03:26:15 PM
Age 53, MN
Do you attend Woodland Hills? I hope you dont believe that people of faith working in the public square are exercising power over!
I respect your comments however worn out they may be. There is nothing new to the fact that man is sinful and will corrupt any and all institutions.
If we must discard religion becuase of the stupidity of man, then we need to discard secular government as well.
The soul of our nation relies upon the "iron sharpens iron" relationship between church and state. Each must be strong and provide a balance of power. Religion is the only force that can hold the state accountable. Click here to reply to this post
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