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Why I can't be an atheist Part 3: Expedient definitions and bogus illustrations



Posted: 12/18/2006

Why I can't be an atheist Part 3: Expedient definitions and bogus illustrations

Defining atheism is a daunting undertaking. It can be an elusive moving target, with constantly varying definitions and ramifications. The dictionary of philosophy defines atheism as: "Belief that god does not exist. Unlike the agnostic, who merely criticizes traditional arguments for the existence of a deity, the atheist must offer evidence that there is no god or propose a strong principle for denying what is not known to be true." 

Yet when this definition is applied, the atheist objects profusely. The atheist wants to instead define his position as merely lacking belief in a God, not one that positively asserts there is no God. The atheist will sometimes say that the proofs given for the existence of God are insufficient--they are unproven not disproved. The atheist clings to this standard because he realizes the utter difficulty, if not, virtual impossibility of proving a universal negative. In a sense, he has pulled the rug out from under himself by taking this minimalist approach. One must rightfully ask how atheists who define themselves this way constructively differ from agnostics, and we ought to chide him for his own insufficiency—satisfaction with a willingness to prove less than he ought to prove.

First of all, he has reduced the question of God's existence from an objective to a subjective standard. By calling the proofs offered for God's existence, which are to him ''insufficient," he actually makes no claim that can be universally acknowledged. What one person calls insufficient evidence, another will find to be quite sufficient. That leaves us in a position where we are almost forced to conclude that any such claim of insufficiency is necessarily arbitrary.

Also, by taking this subjective posture, he assumes the default position, which declares that the existence of God must be assumed false in the absence of positive evidence which he will find persuasive. No such evidence of an evidential nature will likely suffice, since the atheist often begins with the biased presupposition that God doesn’t exist. Any evidence presented will be impermeable to his reality filter, because it violates his foundational assumptions. All evidence is reinterpreted to fit his dogmatic perspective. This is practically a tautology. Atheists demand proof that God exists, yet when it is presented, they casually disregard it as proof they can accept. What justifies this default position on burden of proof in the first place, other than that in the structure of formal debate, the theist will generally occupy the affirmative position? Such is an academic stricture telling us nothing about ultimate truth.

Often atheists contend that the "God idea," is not significantly different from a belief in The Tooth Fairy, The Easter Bunny, Santa Claus, or Gebo the omniscient flying wombat. But how many websites or organizations do you see dedicated to the disproof or ridicule of those who believe in these listed symbolic figures? If they were all equivalent, there should be a more even distribution of critiques proclaiming the fictitious nature of these various cultural icons. There should also be a faithful contingent of superstitious disciples in similar proportion defending the existence of the same. But do you see any notable examples of that phenomenon? We can’t neglect observing that it is most frequently the Judeo-Christian conception of God which is attacked with a heaping surplus of vitriol and sarcasm. Comparing belief in God to belief in Zeus might be comic relief for the converted choir, but it is sermonized ignorance to an astute congregation. Atheists don’t have the same intensity of distain for the small minority of folks who actually are devote followers of obscure deities. That should tell you something significant about the implied similarities or the true objectivity for critics of the supernatural. The atheist/theist dialogue suffers unnecessarily, for the gratuitous use of this “Believing in God is like believing in Santa Claus” comparison. It is difficult to take seriously anyone who insists on using it.

I remember how I came to disbelieve in the Easter Bunny as a child. First, I began to question his existence. Then one year my father went out the side door. A moment passed and the doorbell rang. On the front porch were Easter baskets from the Easter Bunny with a note in my father's handwriting. I then put two and two together.

It would be foolish to believe in the Tooth Fairy once I had determined how money got under my pillow, or how the baby tooth I placed under it also disappeared. But you can't replace something with nothing. We shouldn't readily accept an answer that refutes a current belief, only to be displaced by a myth of greater foolishness. Is the Tooth Fairy any more mythological unreasonable than a belief that the tooth merely dematerialized and the coins under the pillow suddenly materialized out of nothing? When the atheist claims that he does not need to offer a cogent explanation for the origin of matter, he is displacing the "myth" he despises with his own tale of greater credulity. Even given the existence of matter, he must explain how it acted upon itself to produce morality and intelligence. If his metaphysical legend is truly the historical case, I am going to check my pockets more often for the sudden appearance of gold bullion coins.

An atheist once told me that he didn't know for sure how the universe came to be, but knew for certain it wasn't the way that I believed it had happened. Can that sort of logic span the narrowest philosophical crevasse?

I think not.


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Re: Why I can't be an atheist Part 3: Expedient definitions and bogus illustrations
Posted On: 12/18/06 01:14:12 AM Age 20, UN
Oh come on sir, I'm really getting fed up here. I could go into great detail debunking every point you made as I have numerous times on this site with every single point you and your fellow writers have tiredly carbon copied every single time, but I've honestly lost interest and it's becoming increasingly apparent nobody is interested anyway. Stop writing about how you [possibly secretly envy] hate Atheists and how all our beliefs are wrong without evidence blah blah, it only causes resentment. I tell you what if you had penned three articles about how we could save children from AIDS for example I would have far more respect for you. Then again I guess it's easier to trash someone else than it is to admit your own shortcomings. And then again all us Atheists, Homosexuals, Muslims and Secular are all just ignorant twits anyway,.
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  1. Questions and comments of the day....
    Posted On: 12/18/06 05:52:45 PMAge 18, MN
    Would you be willing to provide some evidence for atheism? Why are you assuming that Mr. Meyer doesn't do anything about AIDS? Why do you assume he hates atheists (is someone unloving when they point out an error in someone else's belief? What if someone believed that they could fly and tried to jump off a skyscraper)? Final question: Did you take up that offer by MN 27, the one about him sending you Mark Cahill's book for free as well as donating money to your charity of choice? Christians are concerned about AIDS and other things and they want to help deal with it (such as promoting abstinence). And God does love homosexuals (and I believe that many more Christians than you or even I think also love homosexuals)! Just like He loves liars, thieves, slanderers, murderers, rapists, straight white males, women, etc. He loves these sorts of people (which make up 100% of the population...I gave these examples as all possibilities of various "groups", so anyone who reads this, please don't be offended). The problem is that we don't love HIM! He's holy and has set standards and by our very nature we don't want to obey them (such as marriage being between one man and one woman, wanting to be God, etc.).
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    1. Re: Questions and comments of the day....
      Posted On: 12/19/06 01:02:18 AMAge 20, UN
      Haha, "evidence of Atheism!". As I must have posted several thousand times on this site already (I might as well carbon copy it!) the onus is on *you* to prove the existance of your Lord almighty *not us* to dicredit it. Personally I'm looking forward to the day when we explore te galaxy, discover millions of other planets and life forms and we all realise how ridiulous and small religion really is. Sorry for sounding harsh, but I've had a long and unholy day today. - ScienceBoy
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      1. Re: Re: Questions and comments of the day....
        Posted On: 12/19/06 07:03:48 PMAge 18, MN
        MN 27 offered to send you a book for free and donate to your charity of choice. That book will provide some arguments for the existence of God. Did you take up the offer? Are you open to the possibility that God may exist? Have a great day!
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  2. Re: Re: Why I can't be an atheist Part 3: Expedient definitions and bogus illustrations
    Posted On: 12/18/06 03:03:45 PMAge 47, AR
    Scienveboy, I cannot find hate in the article. Why are you interested in children from AIDS ?
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    1. Re: Re: Re: Why I can't be an atheist Part 3: Expedient definitions and bogus illustrations
      Posted On: 12/19/06 01:03:31 AMAge 20, UN
      Why am I interested in Children [with] AIDS? Because their cause is worth spending time on, not preaching like this.
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      1. Re: Re: Re: Re: Why I can't be an atheist Part 3: Expedient definitions and bogus illustrations
        Posted On: 12/19/06 02:19:06 PMAge 47, AR
        ScienceBoy, What will U do to "save children with AIDS"? Cheers, Pilgrim
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