Atheism is on the March: Dawkins, Dennett, and Darwin
Posted: 11/25/2006
Dawkins, Dennett, and Darwin
by David A. Noebel
With the publication of Richard Dawkins’ The God Delusion and Daniel C. Dennett’s Breaking the Spell: Religion as a Natural Phenomenon, the atheists are putting their collective foot down, saying “Enough is enough.” Enough of this foolish talk about God! Enough about believing in the existence of God. God is a myth, a figment of the imagination that only the ignorant and foolish believe, and it’s about time that God-believers grow up and smell the coffee.
And because the very idea of God is itself contemptible, to conceal one’s contempt is dishonest. Dawkins and Dennett do not conceal their contempt for God, Christianity, or for that matter all religions except the religion of Secular Humanism. Both would undoubtedly proudly display the Darwinian fish on their bumpers.
Indeed, Dawkins and Dennett remind me of V.I. Lenin, who insists that “every idea of God, even flirting with the idea of God, is unutterable vileness—vileness of the most dangerous kind” (1913 letter to Maxim Gorky). Lenin also exhorts that “we must combat religion, that is the ABC of all materialism.” Lenin advised his followers to distribute the atheistic literature of the French Encyclopaedists.They did, and the results can be read in HarvardUniversity’s publication The Black Book of Communism.Every reader toying with atheism or thinking that Dawkins and Dennett are clever and smart needs to read this 850-page book before proceeding to the abyss.
The fact that over 90 percent of Americans claim some belief in God simply staggers Dawkins and Dennett, who describe this state of affairs as “the surrounding gloom of America’s obsession with religion.” They wonder how so many can be so ignorant, especially when they are products of an atheistically saturated educational system, when 94 percent of the hierarchy of the National Academy of Sciences are atheists, and when even mentioning God or His creation is disallowed in professional scientific journals. As a matter of fact, when one professional journal (related to the Smithsonian) challenged Darwin’s theory of natural selection and the neo-Darwinian mutations spoof the whole roof fell in and the editor (with two PhDs in science) was dismissed posthaste. This is an example of atheistic liberalism at its darkest hour, shattering the shibboleth of tolerance, academic freedom, and fair-mindedness once and for all.
Both Dawkins and Dennett insist that Darwin’s theory of natural selection makes belief in God unnecessary, irrelevant, and perhaps dangerous although Dennett does admit there is some kind of relationship between religion and health (it seems that those who practice religion are healthier than those who don’t).
Both see Darwinism as a firm foundation for morality. However, Dennett seems troubled knowing that Pol Pot, Mao, and Stalin (to say nothing of Hitler) believed essentially what he believes regarding God and Darwin, and they represent the moral monsters of the twentieth century.
While those who claim belief in God have indeed committed some horrendous acts (the St. Bartholomew massacre, for example) those who shout their disbelief in God have committed literally millions more. Jung Chang and her husband, in a recent book on Mao, estimate his tortures and killings at 70 million. And Mao believed in Darwin’s evolution and Dawkins’ atheism. Most Americans have forgotten that after the 1949 Communist takeover of China, Darwinism preceded Marx and Lenin in the classroom. Most have forgotten that those Americans in the U.S. State Department, Treasury Department, Agricultural Department, and the White House itself who betrayed China into the hands of Mao were also steeped in atheism and evolution.
Ann Coulter wonders why throughout her 12 years of grade school and high school, 4 years of college (CornellUniversity), and three years of law school (University of Michigan) she never learned about the relationship between Darwin and Hitler. Unfortunately, we won’t learn of that relationship from the works of Dawkins and Dennett either since it may be too embarrassing for these intellectual elites to contemplate.
We can hope that the ethical argument (whether it is necessary to believe in God to be moral) may well sound the death rattle for atheism and Darwinism. In the February/March 2006 issue of Free Inquiry magazine, a humanist publication to which Dawkins contributes, two writers (Mario Bunge and Stuart Jordan) argue that the solution to the world’s multitude of problems is an “atheistic, naturalistic, humanistic, evolutionary worldview of science.”This is Dawkins’ and Dennett’s position as well.
But in this same issue of Free Inquiry Bill Cooke reviews Jung Chang’s work on Mao Zedong in an article entitled “The Madness of Mao.” What Cooke, Dawkins, and Dennett don’t tell their readers, however, is that Mao (responsible for the slaughter of 70 million human beings) put into practice everything that atheistic, naturalistic, humanistic, evolutionistic science represents! Mao was an atheistic, naturalistic, humanistic, evolutionistic practicing Marxist/Leninist.
Let’s admit that the twentieth century was a century of putting into practice “atheistic, naturalistic, humanistic, evolutionistic science.” The Communist and Nazi movements operated with such “science” at the top of their “to do” lists. The “science” of eugenics, for example, had connections with humanism (Margaret Sanger), Nazism (Rudin), and Communism (Lewontin).Indeed, the Journal ofEugenics became the Journal of Social Biology (see Pamela R. Winnick, AJealous God: Science’s Crusade Against Religion and Edwin Black’s War Against The Weak: Eugenics and America’s Campaign to Create A MasterRace).
What Dawkins, Dennett, and Secular Humanists in general will not admit publicly is that the original scientific method was actually founded upon a Christian worldview, not an atheistic, naturalistic, humanistic, evolutionistic worldview. Sir Francis Bacon possessed a Christian worldview, not an atheistic worldview. None of the early founding fathers of the sciences was an atheist; all believed that the heavens declared the glory of God.
Rather than portraying believers in God as the ignorant of the world, living beyond the black stump, we should instead acknowledge that the very foundations of science reflect the Christian worldview and that the scientific method is not a weapon of mass destruction against the very existence of God (see Stanley L. Jaki’s works on Pierre Duhem for some enlightenment on the subject).
What intrigues me is Richard Dawkins’ ridiculing Antony Flew for relinquishing his atheism for some type of deism (a form of theism).Speaking before a body of students and faculty in Lynchburg, Virginia, (not LibertyUniversity) Dawkins asserted that Flew was foolish to rest his deism on Darwin’s BlackBox, Michael Behe’s work on the cell. Dawkins claims Flew would have been better served to rest his case for deism on the constants of nature (e.g., if the strength of gravity, the percentage of oxygen in the atmosphere, the length of the rotation of the earth, the centrifugal force of planetary movement, the charge of an electron, or the mass of a proton were the tiniest bit different, none of us would be here to discuss atheism or evolution) rather than the teleology of the cell. In truth, both sources make a powerful case for the existence of God!
(Incidentally, Flew says his conversion to deism from atheism resulted from reason and science, not revelation or irrationalism. It must surely strike rational human beings as rather strange that as an atheist, Flew was considered one of the brightest stars in the universe, but once he left his atheism, he suddenly became one of the dwarf stars in a far off galaxy if not in some black hole.)
The love fest between Dawkins and Dennett, however, may be short lived because neither they nor atheism can explain the origin of life from inorganic matter, nor can they find the fossils before the Cambrian period to prove their evolutionary scenario—something Darwin believed essential to prove that his theory was true.
Nor can Dawkins and Dennett explain away the slaughter of the twentieth century (the bloodiest in all recorded human history—170 million deaths, according to R. J. Rummel). No Christian idea was responsible for this terrible slaughter. All the ideas responsible are found in the camp of Dawkins’ and Dennett’s atheism, naturalism, humanism, socialism, and evolutionism. No human being was shot, drowned, starved, quartered, hanged, poisoned, or otherwise dispatched in the twentieth century because ofthe ideas of theism, supernaturalism, or creationism in the public square!
Who in Colorado can ever forget the names Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold? They were responsible for the murders of 12 of their fellow students at ColumbineHigh School in Littleton, Colorado. “You know what I love?” asked Harris. “Natural Selection. It’s the best thing that ever happened on this earth. Getting rid of all the stupid and ignorant organisms.”On the day he killed his fellow students (deliberately seeking out Christians) and wounded 24 others, he was wearing a T-shirt bearing Darwin’s motto:“Natural Selection.” Again, is there any rational human being who believes that if his T-shirt had said “Jesus Loves You” he would have committed such horrendous crimes? I don’t think so!
Dennett admits at the end of his book that he is somewhat motivated by a political agenda. No doubt his political agenda mirrors the agenda of the culture of death—promoters of abortion, partial birth abortion, embryonic stem cell laboratory experimentation, death education, sex education, radical feminism, euthanasia, dead-end gay marriage, etc.
The testimony of Scripture, of course, speaks directly against Dawkins and Dennett: “The fool says in his heart, God does not exist” (Psalm 14: 1). “The wicked arrogantly thinks: there is no accountability, since God does not exist” (Psalm 10:4). “The heavens declare the glory of God, and the sky proclaims the works of His hands. Day after day they pour out speech; night after night they communicate knowledge [power and wisdom]” (Psalm 19:1-2). “From the creation of the world His invisible attributes, that is His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what He has made” (Romans 1:20). “Where is the philosopher? Where is the scholar? Where is the debater of this age? Hasn’t God made the world’s wisdom foolish?” (I Corinthians 1:20).
Logic, too, counters Dawkins and Dennett, in that everything that comes into existence must have a sufficient cause. Even the skeptic David Hume says, “I never asserted so absurd a proposition as that anything might arise without a cause.” Only God fills this model of cause and effect. Belief in chance or accident is simply not logical. As Paul Amos Moody explains, “The more I study science the more I am impressed with the thought that this world and universe have a definite design—and a design suggests a designer.”
Not only do Scripture and logic defy atheism, the hard sciences also challenge it (especially physics and astronomy), forcing some to reconsider their atheistic premises. The existence of mathematical principles and order in the physical universe cannot be ignored. These mathematical representations turn out to be “elegant, surprisingly simple, and even beautiful.” E=MC2 is simple, yet beautiful.Einstein notes, “The harmony of natural law . . . reveals an intelligence of such superiority that, compared with it, all systematic thinking and acting of human beings is an utterly insignificant reflection.”
May our loving, wise, powerful and patient God, who created the heavens and the earth (Genesis 1:1) and who laughs at the Dawkins, Dennetts and Darwins of the world (Psalm 2), convict all of us about the seriousness of these matters and help us be fit evangelists to the high and mighty as well as to the poor and miserable. Amen!
Any reader interested in this type of discussion please read Noebel's new and revised edition of Understanding The Times in which he contrasts theism and atheism in more depth as he analyzes the Christian worldview and other atheistic worldviews. With atheism on the march once again Christians can't be too well armed for the collision of ideas, beliefs, convictions and values. Click Here to order:
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It sounds like the author of this article did not read Dawkins' book. There are several segments of this article where the author states something like, "and Dawkins fails to mention or explain X". Having read the book, I know that those statements are not true. Dawkins is quite thorough in his discussion. This is not to say that I agree with him, but the author of this article needs to try to be more honest.
For example, the author repeatedly mentions that Hitler and Stalin, arguably the two most destructive men of the 20th century, were atheists. Yes, they were. The author then admits that many evil deeds have been committed in the name of Christianity. Dawkins argues in his book that these are not comparable scenarios. The Christians who fought the Crusades and burned people at the stake were doing it all in the name of Christianity. Hitler and Stalin, however, were NOT committing their deeds in the name of atheism. It other words, their atheism was not a necessary condition for their actions. This is not the case with the Christian perpetrators.
It is also noteworthy to mention the fact that "proving" the existence of God does NOT prove anything about Christianity. Just because it seems logically reasonable that there is indeed some divine being in existence does NOT necessarily mean that this "God" has to be the god of the Bible.
In the same way, disproving the theory of evolution does NOT automatically prove creation theory. It is possible that boths theories are wrong. Click here to reply to this post
Re: Some reconsiderations...
Posted On: 11/29/06 07:52:07 PM
Age 27, WA
I know Dr. Noebel, and believe me, he has definitly read the book. I think you are simply misunderstanding his article. When he speaks about Hitler and Stalin and atheism, he is not just talking about atheism as a religion he is talking about the atheistic worldview. This incompasses not just what they think about God, but also what they think about life, society, economics, law etc... He is talking about all of their beliefs and ideologies. In other words, it was definitly their atheistic worldview that was a necessary condition for their actions. Click here to reply to this post
Re: Atheism is on the March: Dawkins, Dennett, and Darwin
Posted On: 11/28/06 07:58:35 PM
Age 53, PA
I find that argument that it was the atheism of Lenin, Stalin, Hitler, and Mao that made them monsters simply silly. It was not their atheism, it was their lust for power and lack of sympathy that made them murdering monsters. Atheists such as myself who have no desire to have power over others and who feel sympathy for others cannot even imagine hurting human beings the way these dictators did.
Neither atheism nor theism leads to moral or immoral behavior. It is our moral emotions such as shame, embarrasssment, guilt, sympathy, and compassion that lead to moral behavior and lack of moral emotions that lead to immoral behavior. And where do these emotions come from? They are evolved adaptations of course.
The pointlessness of arguing whether theists or atheists have caused more suffering and death in the history of humankind has been well described in a short article at http://www.infidels.org/secular_web/feature/1999/violence.html Click here to reply to this post
Here here!
Posted On: 12/07/06 12:41:39 AM
Age 20, UN
Thanks for pointing out this article! I agree 100% with what you say, it is how we have evolved as humans that dictate our morals, not religion (or lack thereof). When people argue with me on this point I point out the actions of animals: meerkats don't kill other meerkats, not because they have high morals given to them by religion, but because they have evolved that way. To me as well the argument of who kills more people (atheists or theists) is pointless and sick, because by saying that religion "kills less" than "someone else" is side stepping the real question: why do people get killed because of religion at all? It's like comparing a man who has brutally killed two people to a serial killer; the actions of one man does not make the other man's any less vulgar. It's a cold, shallow argument at best, and a ridiculously stupid one at worst. I encourage everyone to read the aforementioned article, I liked the caricature too :). Cheers - ScienceBoy Click here to reply to this post
Re: Atheism is on the March: Dawkins, Dennett, and Darwin
Posted On: 11/28/06 06:59:06 PM
Age 81, CA
Atheists choose a lifestyle first and ignore:
1. Their own need to deny shortcoming (sin) in personal life raised most accurately and constuctively in Judeo-Christian faith. 'Scientific self-imposed' ignorance. 2. Deny any God initiator of the 1st Cause of our causal universe - denoted originally in Biblical scripture. 3. Needful to distinguish between Judeo-Christian God-made and all other man-made faiths. 4. Only Biblical Transcendent Criteria, which which man cannot invent, and Fulfilled Prophetic Validation verifies non-man made Source of Scripture. 5. A Biblical Human Paradigm as premise for the greatest nation in human history - The United States of America.
This, for openers, less than 750 word limitation.
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Re: Re: Atheism is on the March: Dawkins, Dennett, and Darwin
Posted On: 11/29/06 01:26:55 AM
Age 20, UN
I see far more "self imposed ignorance" in religion than science sir/madam. From what I recall from history class wasn't it a scientist who proposed the world was round not flat, and that he was called a sinner by Christians sir/madam? Every one of the 20,000 religions in the history of humankind sir/madam professes that their religion is correct and based on the teachings of their God or Gods, and that every other religion is wrong and is man made. Every religion is man made I'm afraid sir/madam, and every single one justifies itself in the same, identical way. Sir Stephen Henry Roberts said it best: "I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer God than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible Gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours." And as for your comment sir/madam about the USA being the greatest nation: profess a love for our planet and her people, not for the human made paradigm of a "nation". As my grandfather says sir/madam to JW's who arrive at his door (I'm paraphrasing sir/madam): "I encourage you to step outside your religious restrictions and see the world for what it is, even just for 5 minutes. We have barely scratched the surface of understanding and already we can see the universe is far more wondrous, amazing and beautiful than anything religion has been able to come up with. If the thought scares you, stay in your religious bubble where you can explain everything and where there's no uncertainty. I don't have a problem with it, I'm just sorry for you." And so you don't have to say it sir/madam, yes I am young and ignorant Atheist who will burn in hell. I appreciate the lively debate sir/madam. Thank you - ScienceBoy Click here to reply to this post
Re: Re: Re: Atheism is on the March: Dawkins, Dennett, and Darwin
Posted On: 12/01/06 01:53:27 PM
Age 47, GA
Actually, the Bible teaches the earth is spheroid / round. (see Isaiah 40:22) You have to be very careful when you evaluate "what someone says the Bible says" vs. what the Bible really states. Atheists, in my experience, rely upon others to tell them the Bible is wrong, but rarely take the time to study it in detail for themselves. When they do this openly, honestly, and objectively, they often become Christians (see Josh McDowell, Dr. Hugh Ross, Charles Colson, etc. Many, many more examples too). Ironic, isn't it, that those who demand objective evidence instead of faith are often the ones who are quickest to "believe" the Bible is wrong without ever really examining the objective facts for themselves! There's a lot more fascinating scientific accuracies in the Bible. I challenge you to check it out, that is, if you have the courage to accept the real verdict of your investigation. Click here to reply to this post
Re: Re: Re: Re: Atheism is on the March: Dawkins, Dennett, and Darwin
Posted On: 12/06/06 06:38:48 PM
Age 20, UN
You're right, instead of attacking me as soon as you saw "Atheist" you presented me with an argument that was backed up, which is more that what most people do here. My mum is a Christian, I will ask her about this tonight. I wouldn't be too quick to say reading a religion's holy book will convert you though, just as you reading Darwin's Theory of Evolution or the Qur'an wouldn't probably convert you either. You have to remember as well there are large parts of the Bible that discuss stoning of untrue virgins, the acceptance of slavery, the treatment of women as property (to be owned and raped), murder and other remarks that I find (politely) wrong and that do not have a place in today's society. I'm actually in the process of reading Buddha's Teachings as we speak. Cheers - ScienceBoy Click here to reply to this post
Re: Re: Re: Atheism is on the March: Dawkins, Dennett, and Darwin
Posted On: 11/30/06 06:40:42 PM
Age 27, WA
First, what is with all the "sir/madam" stuff, that just got annoying.
"From what I recall from history class wasn't it a scientist who proposed the world was round not flat, and that he was called a sinner by Christians sir/madam?"
-FALSE - The first people to propose that the earth was flat were Pythagoras, Plato, and Aristotle about 300-600 years before Christianity. It was later a christian that proved the earth was round.
"Every one of the 20,000 religions in the history of humankind sir/madam professes that their religion is correct and based on the teachings of their God or Gods, and that every other religion is wrong and is man made."
-FALSE - Many religions propose that all religions are equal. But that aside, the statement that they all claim to be true, does not make them all false. (eg. one of them could be correct)
"Every religion is man made I'm afraid sir/madam, and every single one justifies itself in the same, identical way."
-FALSE - Not enough space to explain, but it is pretty obvious that they don't all justify themselves in the same identical way.
We have barely scratched the surface of understanding and already we can see the universe is far more wondrous, amazing and beautiful than anything religion has been able to come up with.
-TRUE - You "have barely scratched the surface of understanding," but we can clearly see that the universe is far more wondrous, and beautiful than anything random chance can come up with out of nothing.
If the thought scares you, stay in your Anti-God bubble where you can explain everything and where there's no uncertainty. I don't have a problem with it, I'm just sorry for you. And I seriously hope that you don't remain ignorant, or burn in hell. Click here to reply to this post
Re: Atheism is on the March: Dawkins, Dennett, and Darwin
Posted On: 11/25/06 02:17:39 PM
Age 20, UN
I believe most of what the authors you quoted say; reading your first few paragraphs when you describe the stupidity of religion and how it causes so much trouble really struck a chord with me! However that aside, I think both Dawkins and Dennett are doing nothing to help religious tolerance and cherishing multiculturalism. They are doing much harm by saying what they say in such brash tones; the last thing we need is yet another reason for there to be a religious conflict based on a "he said, she said" routine. They have demonstrated that they are no better than the people they are trying to bring out of the delusion of religion in the first place! I guess I can more confidently describe myself as being a Weak Atheist (as opposed to a Strong one). Cheers - ScienceBoy from the World View Weekend Expos (http://ravingatheists.com/scienceboy/) Click here to reply to this post
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