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Posted: 11/14/2006

It’s Talk Radio’s Fault

 

I warned you in March that “Conservativism” is counterfeit salt.  It made a lot of people mad….especially church leaders.  They thought Jesus was arriving aboard Air -Force One.

 

As Rush would say, “See, I Told You So”….except he didn’t.

 

We have reached a day in the American Church where to criticize the president or the Republican Party borders on blasphemy.   Believe me, I have felt their wrath.  Now after the election, look at our “Christian leadership” abandon ship.  Sadly, this is where pragmatism over principle has taken us. 

 

I’m glad they lost.

 

Let me make it clear.  I am a Christian, and an unashamed one.  I’m not sinless, nor guiltless, but I am forgiven and work every day on the “ministry of reconciliation.”  Christ is my president, and the Bible is His platform.  I agree with him and His positions.  His Word called me to “Be Holy, as I am Holy.” (I Peter 1:16)  Seems impossible, but it is a worthy goal.

 

Turn your radio to any “conservative” talk radio show.  With the exception of Michael Savage, all of them are nothing more than Republican shills.  Something is seriously wrong.

 

In the Columbus, Ohio area, where I live, Clear Channel dominates the market. Three of the top four rated stations are owned by them (type in Columbus).

 

Glenn Beck at 9:00, Rush at noon, Hannity--tape delayed at 9:00 pm is the local industry talk-leaders' line-up.  O’Reilly can be heard on another station, Mike Gallagher, Laura Ingraham, are all within earshot….all telling us how great the Republicans are.

 

At night, on our local TV, if I still have not heard enough Republican bilge, I can pick up Beck, O’Reilly, and Hannity, who somehow have gotten their own TV shows.  As an added bonus, Gallagher often subs for Hannity on Fox News, Reagan and Ingraham are regular guests on Fox News Shows, and I’m sure that the networks would do anything they could to land Rush…but he won’t sell to the stations the talent that God has loaned him.

 

What is going on?  Is it just me, or do some voices seem to have a monopoly on the market, and who is it that determines what voices will be heard?  Why is Newt all over the airwaves?  Aren’t you tired of Dick Morris telling you what to think?  Is it just me, or are we served a steady diet of the same hand-picked “experts?”

 

Wouldn’t you think that just one of these talkers would interview alternative voices?  I’d like to hear from Ron Paul, or Judge Roy Moore.  I’d love to hear what Rev. Flip Benham, Pastor Bob Enyart, Mike Heath, Peter LaBarbera , Devvy Kidd have to say.  Here’s why you don’t hear them.  They don’t toe the party line.  They aren’t good Republicans.  They might rock the boat.   Unfortunately, even the Christian-media is looking for “company men.”

 

I do a weekly program in the Columbus area.  I used to be on a station in Columbus with the most powerful Christian-signal in the state.   The theme of the show was “a look at today’s issues from a Christian perspective.    During the first four years of the Bush administration I began to point out inconsistencies in what they said and what they did.  This made everyone, especially pastors, very nervous, as I challenged the “church of the status quo” and their incestuous affair with the Republican Party.  The station, with a signal that reaches the entire state, rates dead last in Columbus.  They serve up sleepy Christian program designed to keep Christians sleepy.  I was rocking the boat and making pastors sea-sick.  Out of mutual frustration we agreed, amicably to part ways.  I now broadcast from a much smaller station that isn’t quite as Republican, and doesn’t mind that I am an equal opportunity offender.

 

I won’t go into details, but suffice it to say, as all of the talk-leaders are constantly reminding us, that their audiences think for themselves.  That is why “conservatives” were so un-enthusiastic on Election Day.   We listen, but we spend a lot of time shaking our heads.  Our conservative voices have sold us down the river and we are smart enough to recognize it.

 

When the Foley incident hit, did you notice what happened on talk-radio?  Denny Hastert appeared as guest on almost all of their shows.  What a convenient opportunity for Hastert to practice his softball swing and move anyone who might be straying away from the Republican herd back into the corral.  He’s on his way out and I hope the gate hits him in the butt.

 

Their cheerleading for the Republican Party should make any clear-thinking Christian leery.   I used to feel sorry for Hannity’s side kick, Alan Colmes.  It seemed like he always had to defend some outrageous leftist position, because that was his job.  Everyone watching knew how ridiculous his arguments were.  Heck, he knew they were ridiculous.  Now, Colmes sits smugly in his chair as Hannity continually rails against “liberals” and lamely tries to convince us that liberal-Republican positions are actually “conservative.”  It appears as empty as Rosie selling us “homosexual family-values.”    What goes around comes around.

 

But I don’t feel sorry for “conservatives.”  They did it to themselves.  Instead of standing up for the values they once championed, they now stand up for “Republicans” who have wrapped themselves in “conservative clothes.”  But we can see.  The emperor has no clothes, but the talkers want to convince us that the clothes are merely “see-through.”  Well we see through them, Alright. 

 

I can’t seem to break the mindset, but I will continue to try.  Republicans and Democrats are two arms of the same body.  The “tattoos” on the arms make them appear different, but they are both controlled by the same “head.”  The head wants more government, more control, less freedom.  The separate arms are what keep the “people” from working together.  Listen closely Republicans.  Democrats are not your enemy.  It is all a big shell game.  The “head” just wants you to think the arms are different.  They must divide God-fearing Americans.  God help them if the Christians ever woke up to the election shell-game and discovered that most Democrats hold conservative values.  The leadership in neither party is conservative…and finally Rush has come clean and told us so.

 

There are three hundred million Americans.  Only forty-three men have ever had the honor of being president.  What are the odds, out of three-hundred million people, that our last four presidents could be a father-son combo and a husband-wife combo?  Free elections, eh?   Democrats and Republicans, huh?  You are a fool if you think the “leadership” of America is elected by the people.

 

Make no mistake about it; there is a king-maker somewhere.  While we think we are choosing the cards, someone is stacking the deck.  Why can’t we see it? We’ve been Hannitized, educated by the “truth detector,” led to defeat while the talkers orchestrated the cheers.

 

 “Democrats, and liberals are sleazy, sleazy,

Vote for Republicans, pleasie, pleasie!”

 

Our founders gave us a free press.  The press was supposed to be the guardian of liberty.  Instead, they have become cheerleaders for political parties.

 

Listen to this , just 5 minutes, from a recent radio show of mine.  Imagine if we had talk-radio that held our leaders accountable?  What if radio hosts were watchdogs instead of lapdogs?

 

I don’t mean to blow my own horn, but can you imagine an America where the airwaves were filled with this kind of conservative talk?

 

Talk radio has let us down.  They've served us “compassionate conservativism” and told us it was salt.  Is it any wonder the culture is rotting?

 

Throw the bums out…and I don’t mean the politicians!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Re: Its Talk Radios Fault
Posted On: 11/19/06 01:29:41 AM Age 40, MS
I guess the Coach has never listened to the Culture Warrior rail against the administration regarding the border. I can recall many instances of talk-radio hosts criticizing Bush on a whole host of issues. Maybe he doesn't recall how important talk radio has been in the past, in the early 90s. I think that these hosts by and large are anti-big gov't and more pro free-market and individual responsibility and not necessarily GOP stooges....these sympathies, until recently, meshed better with the Repubs than the Dems. That being said, I agree with some of what he says about Christians having Mr. Bush and the GOP as almost an idol, as if getting the right judicial appointments, etc., would somehow usher in the kingdom of God. Well, I have been there, too, thru the Reagan Revolution, Contract with America, etc., and I can understand some of the Coach's frustration with the GOP. Some people seem like they want to idolize GWB just because he says he is a Christian, while conveniently ignoring the pluralistic/inclusivistic statements that the man has made. In the minds of some Chritians, the guy seemingly can do no wrong. I understand the frustration with having to go with the lesser of two evils. I know there are some Democrats(now sure I'd say most, though) that do have conservative values, like some African-Americans (who often are led to believe that only Democrats will look out for them) or others, esp in the South and midwest who vote Democrat because their daddy did and all that. It shows when Democrats who run in middle America often sound quite conservative. I can imagine the day when those who call themselves Christian(and it is a large number of ppl) would break away and vote Constitution party for example. I understand this could potentially be a huge number of voters (a portion of which would include those calling themselves Democrats). How to do all this and break out of the two-party quagmire is any one's guess. Christians have rarely even been able to agree on the most fundamental doctrines essential to the faith in the past, why expect them to unify and agree now?
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Re: Its Talk Radios Fault
Posted On: 11/19/06 01:29:18 AM Age 40, MS
I guess the Coach has never listened to the Culture Warrior rail against the administration regarding the border. I can recall many instances of talk-radio hosts criticizing Bush on a whole host of issues. Maybe he doesn't recall how important talk radio has been in the past, in the early 90s. I think that these hosts by and large are anti-big gov't and more pro free-market and individual responsibility and not necessarily GOP stooges....these sympathies, until recently, meshed better with the Repubs than the Dems. That being said, I agree with some of what he says about Christians having Mr. Bush and the GOP as almost an idol, as if getting the right judicial appointments, etc., would somehow usher in the kingdom of God. Well, I have been there, too, thru the Reagan Revolution, Contract with America, etc., and I can understand some of the Coach's frustration with the GOP. Some people seem like they want to idolize GWB just because he says he is a Christian, while conveniently ignoring the pluralistic/inclusivistic statements that the man has made. In the minds of some Chritians, the guy seemingly can do no wrong. I understand the frustration with having to go with the lesser of two evils. I know there are some Democrats(now sure I'd say most, though) that do have conservative values, like some African-Americans (who often are led to believe that only Democrats will look out for them) or others, esp in the South and midwest who vote Democrat because their daddy did and all that. It shows when Democrats who run in middle America often sound quite conservative. I can imagine the day when those who call themselves Christian(and it is a large number of ppl) would break away and vote Constitution party for example. I understand this could potentially be a huge number of voters (a portion of which would include those calling themselves Democrats). How to do all this and break out of the two-party quagmire is any one's guess. Christians have rarely even been able to agree on the most fundamental doctrines essential to the faith in the past, why expect them to unify and agree now?
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No, It's the Rapture Gnostics' Fault
Posted On: 11/18/06 12:07:38 PM Age 47, MO
I agree in part with this article. I have listened to a lot of talk radio, especially while driving or exercising, and I will agree that the conservative talk-show pundits over-promote Republican politicians. I honestly believe that they are overcompensating for the so-called mainstream media and their extreme liberal, pro-death, pro-perversion, pro-Democrat slant. Moreover, there are still far too many Rapture Gnostics in the Christian media who fleece a lot of money and teach too many Christians to sit at home on their left behinds on every election day. As for Michael Savage, he is not a professin Christian, although he does have a Dave Hunt-style arrogance in the way he bashes the GOP! I am actually glad that so many corrupt Republicans lost this time. Unfortunately, there were a lot of collateral damage losses in the recent election: Defeats of pro-life Republican candidates with integrity, such as Jim Talent, Michael Steele, Mike Bouchard, Mark Kennedy, Rick Santorum, Jim Ryun, Tim Walberg, Phill Kline, Jim Barnett, Ken Blackwell, and Lynn Swann; and life issues losses such as the defeats of abortion restrictions in California, Oregon, and South Dakota, the defeat of a marriage-protection amendment in Arizona, and the passage of the clone-and-kill bill in Missouri. I blame both the MSM and the Rapture Gnostics for that!
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Re: Its Talk Radios Fault
Posted On: 11/17/06 03:08:59 AM Age 42, KY
COACH, you certain find it easy to attack and blame everyone but who is really at fault for the 06 election results. Oh I am sorry, you are happy with the results! So let's see what there is to be happy about! We have put in power the party that wants to: remove YHVH (that is 'God' in case you are wondering Coach) public in general and make it a hate crime to preach against perversions; the party that wants to tax everyone into the poor house; the party that promotes all sort of perversions; the party who endorses the murder unborn children because the might inconvenience the mother and/or father; the party that wants to appease and even give Constitutional & Bill of Rights protection to the Islamic terrorist; and the party who wants to feed Israel to the Islamic Dogs! Yep, you and the rest of the so called Democrat Christian - a true example of an oxymoron, if there ever was one, should be proud of who you elected! I hate to break it to you 'Coach' but it isn't Talk Radio's fault at all, that the Republican's lost this last election. The main reason for the defeat is the fact that far to many of the republicans have taken on the democrats liberal mantle and tried to appease everyone, just for the vote that keeps them in office. The fact is most of the democrats that won, ran as moderate or even conservative democrats! If conservatism had truly lost, then why didn't more liberal democrats run!?! Only in areas that are truly liberal to begin with, did liberal democrats run based on their liberal views and win. Now back to Rush, Sean and the rest; they are very quick to criticize the President and Republican, especially the republicans that abandon their conservative principles. The simple reason why there are so many 'conservative' talk radio shows, is because that is what folks want to hear! They are tired of being lied to by the Main-stream media who claims to be unbiased, but always slants their stories to liberal points of view and human secularist ideology. Rush, Sean, Glen and Bill, just to name a few, happily tell you they are conservatives and that they believe in conservatism, as well as God, and as you pointed out, even Rush gives God the credit for his success, "Talent on loan from God!" Any of your liberal brethren give God credit for anything other than causing all the problems of the world! Name for me the last time you hear one of the conservative talk show host support: abortion, sexual perversion, removing YHVH and Yeshua from the public completely, or activist judges legislating from the bench! No one on Talk Radio, has ever treated Bush like he was untouchable or beyond reproach, that is simply a lie. Another thing that amazes me is, I know many democrats and a few republicans who treat elections like ball games, and they never look beyond the party affiliation as to determine who they will vote for. Their grandparents where democrat, their parents were democrats and by golly they are democrats! If you put anything ahead of YHVH and Yeshua, then you have messed up! I am a Christian first and foremost, and that is what determines who I vote for. My votes for candidates are influenced by how the candidates regard YHVH and Yeshua first, the Constitution and Bill of Rights second, and the Security of this country 3rd! Coach, I found your article chock full of jealousy, contempt and bitterness over your failed show, as well as a bit too much conspiracy insinuations. Your show failed because no one wanted to hear the stuff you were peddling, and instead of taking a serious look at what you might be doing wrong, you start looking for conspiracies to explain why you failed. Of course, you forget that scriptures tells us and the majority of the world will reject the message of the Messiah's promise of salvation. No sir, Coach, you can't lay the troubles this country faces at the feet of Talk Radio, for it rest squarely on the failure of folks like yourself, who profess to be Christian leaders, but who pander to whatever gets the most attendance in Church, even at the expense of the Truth! JMHO Mark
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Re: Its Talk Radios Fault
Posted On: 11/17/06 12:52:11 AM Age 30, WA
Now, i am not american, but please dont patronise me by telling me therefore, that I 'dont understand' the system. This article is all well and good, but as some of the respondents have pointed out, WHAT ARE THE ALTERNATIVES????? You have two major parties. One that is EXTREMELY liberal, Godless and not ashamed to say so. One that is also imperfect, but at least the less of the 2 evils. By making Christians out to be dumb voters who just vote republican because they are brain washed by talk shows to do so, is rather a condescenind view. Christian come in both dumb and bright varieties, and some, unlike the writer of this article, are realistic about the current state of affairs, and recognise that the current executive is FAR FAR better than John Kerry, and his, YES SLEAZY opinions and inclinations. And lastly, OH MY WORD, there is FAR FAR FAR FAR more leftist media and louder liberal voices overcrowding the airwaves (CNN...). For every one replican-supporting station, there are HUNDREDS of anti-Christian, pro democrat ones, so please, dont try to stifle the 0.000001% market share that common sense sometimes gets. Feel free to examine your own opinions and aversions to the Republican party and try to be honest about the source of them. A socialist based education? Indiscriminate reaading of popular literature? Try to be gracious, OK?
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Re: Its Talk Radios Fault
Posted On: 11/15/06 12:03:53 PM Age 56, KS
Agree 100%! Am glad that the Republicans lost in the elections. As I told my wife and daughters, God install and uninstall kings and princes in this world. He still calls the shots and we believers should never forget that! My hope is never on man but on Him who supremely rules with fairness and mercy. My only struggle is this: why are there believers that think that the conservatives represent the values of the faithful? What did say about the Pharisees and rulers of his time? Do we have a small god that could not much to the call of the age? Let God be true and all men be liars! Our constituency should demand from each and every public servant total accountability of their speeches and actions! It is been long overdue! Keep up the good work, brother! JRRojero
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Picture is bigger than that
Posted On: 11/15/06 11:18:44 AM Age 18, MN
I'd like to first start by saying that I don't listen to talk radio, but my dad, on occasion, does. He commented to me before the elections (back in the spring and summer I think) that these conservative talk show hosts did criticize Bush quite often on govt. spending etc. and this was a station that had Rush, Sean, etc. (Side point: During election season, it's usually still obvious that many GOP leaders tend to be conservative, so they would get that sort of support.) Now, I must admit that there are some serious problems with the Republican party, but they are (from what I can see right now) making changes in leadership. I suggest that the Republican Party may be suffering because the culture is anti-Christian in general. According to Barna, less than 10% of Christian youth (my age basically) believe in absolute truth. Now, if these are our Christian kids (or, in my case, comrades) growing up, how do you think they'll vote? If they've grown up and become politicians and cultural leaders, how do you think they'll reflect the culture, regardless of party? Most universities today teach anti-Christian beliefs. I suggest that the parties in America simply reflect the culture at large. The Democrats (in general, not necessarily on the specific) embrace a humanistic type mindset. The Republicans tend to support (in general) Biblical positions on issues. Are we to expect the GOP to be immune to our anti-Christian culture? We shouldn't if we do. Are they perfect? No. Can they fail us? Yes. Should I put my trust in a political party or person? No. Our trust should be and always be Jesus. HE'S in charge of nations, kings, and powers. Keep in mind that many good guys in the Bible (with the exception of God of course) faltered, sinned, and blew it big time. Did God correct them? Yes, whether directly (such as a plauge or whirlwind or whatever), or indirectly (Paul chewing Peter out in Galatians). Maybe we should be praying and doing that in the culture... I think I know where the coach is going with this. He had suggested this before prior to the elections that Jim Dobson and others break off from the GOP and try and build a war chest for '08 presidency and nominate a good, strong, Christian leader as an independent (if I'm wrong, I awkwardly apologize for misreading the Coach). Do I equate GOP=Christian? NO! But I think that if we are to expect the party that supposed to hold up our values and yet see how the church has, in many ways, failed to do it's duty, then we're missing the point. We can't expect high-quality leadership in either major party as long as Christians aren't waking up and engaging the culture (and that means not just voting for the lesser of two evils, it means discipleship, it means evangelism, it means worldview, etc.) We should be challenging the the culture in our own neighborhoods, our own cities, our own churches, etc. Both parties have sinners, but I still would suggest that in many cases, the GOP still has some backbone left. Final point: David Barton has pointed out that many times, our leaders in Congress don't usually get letters or e-mails concerning various bills. In fact, one congressman said that if he recieved 50 letters, he knew it was a hot issue. Point taken: liberal interest groups will gladly send their message to Washington, so leaders that don't have as much backbone are more likely to base their vote on the letters they received. Only leaders that have backbone (stand up for Biblical principles) or are totally ornery (support liberal ideas whole-heartedly) are going to ignore or be less likely to give in. Regardless of your favorite party, regardless of your representative and senator's party, e-mail and put pressure on them. If they don't give in, make this known for the next election. And ultimately pray for this nation, it's leaders, and the church.
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Re: Its Talk Radios Fault
Posted On: 11/15/06 10:23:56 AM Age 56, TX
I agree with one point in your article. Jesus is neither a Republican nor Democrat. However, to lump all conservative radio hosts under one heading is most unfair. Whether you agree with their message or not, conservative talk radio provides us with some truth and perspective that will never appear on the major television networks. I've heard Hannity, and Rush, and others, come down hard on Republicans for failing to live up to their conservative roots. I've heard them criticize the president for mishandling many matters. I truly don't see them as "cheerleaders" for the Republican party. I see them as warriors against the socialistic, misguided, ungodly ideaology of their Democrat counter parts.
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Re: Its Talk Radios Fault
Posted On: 11/14/06 09:35:26 PM Age 44, KY
Go Coach Go! I have tried to warn my fellow Christian brothers and sisters for several years. Thanks for exposing the claque.
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Re: Its Talk Radios Fault
Posted On: 11/14/06 02:22:16 PM Age 38, PA
Although I don't like the attitude with most of your articles (this one is no different), this article makes a great case against tying the name of Jesus to a political party that is more worried about political power than spiritual renewal. Voting for the lesser of 2 evils has and will continue to get us evil. Many posters have made a great observation, Dave didn't make any real, concrete answers known. That is the point. Jesus wasn't a politician, our job as Xians is not to be worried about politics in order to change people's minds and it doesn't work from the top-down approach (changing people's hearts). I voted for Mickey and Goofy here in PA because as an independant, there was nobody worth voting in the govenor's race (Rendell against Lynn Swan) nor Senate (Casey vs Santorum). We should be voting for good (as much as good can be applied to humans and politicians)candidates, not voting out of fear of the "other side" (whatever side that may be). God has it all in control, the people in power are there at God's granting or placing (Romans 13) whether wicked or righteous. Our job is to witness Jesus as the king and proclaim the year of the lord's favor (Isaiah 61). Let's major on the majors. Jim
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  1. Re: Its Talk Radios Fault
    Posted On: 11/21/06 09:39:34 PMAge 40, IL
    Sorry, "Age 38 PA" but you must be blind to have had both Swan and Santorum available, and yet you threw away your vote to Mickey and Goofy. You are the reason more conservative Christian men do not successfully run for office at that level. You have no one to blame but yourself when you end up with Rendell and Casey, who even you cannot possibly believe are acceptable, let alone "more conservative" choices. People, wake up. It is not often truly a choice of "the lesser of two evils." It is a choice of DIRECTION. Either "more" conservative, or else "more" liberal. Most good candidates, including Rick Santorum, may not be saints, but they ARE good men who deserve support; and you cannot escape the fact that you must choose from among the alternatives presented to you. You have one God-given vote, and it is your responsibility to use it wisely. When we support the candidate who holds a worldview closest to Christ, we eventually get the opportunity to vote for others. As for "coach," although your point about the Republican Party being less-than-Christian as well as less-than-Conservative is valid, the Republicans themselves just learned that lesson the hard way. They had the numbers, if never a conservative majority, and they failed. Failed to define life as required by Roe v. Wade. Failed to eliminate the unconstitutional filibuster. Failed to simply pass a resolution authorizing the military to block the border (not act as police, just stop the invasion) - one constitutional use of a standing army. Failed to privatize Social Security. Failed to permanently cut taxes or gut the tax code in favor of a sales tax instead. Failed to pass the marriage amendment out to the states for ratification. Failed to confirm dozens of judges. Failed, failed, failed, and now they've been held accountable. Failed to immediately setup permanent military bases in Iraq like we did in Japan, Germany, and Italy, and tell the cut-and-run idiots to take a hike, we're there to make sure Islam behaves until the day we can educate them all to know better. But what did we get instead? Pelosi? I actually listen to "conservative talk radio" and can tell you that it is quite obvious to me that you do not. You apparently listen to your own hype and believe you are a lone voice trying to criticize Bush and the Republicans, while ignoring the rampant criticism leveled at them repeatedly and daily by Boortz, Rush, O'Reilly, and even Hannity (Republican apologist that he may often be, though even he gets on them about spending, immigration, family issues, and lack of backbone). Many of us agree with your perspective, but you can't "blame" the effect of Republican failures and result of liberal MASS media on the few conservative talk radio hosts who are trying their best, like you, to wake up America. Just keep it up, and remember, since it is a change of heart that changes society: Conservatives can't win the culture by elections, but we can lose it.
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